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Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 6:31 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Yes... Australian boxjellys have four eye clusters with which their motion is guided towards 'Prey'. Whether that's other fish... Or people swimming.

A bit of a tangent, I was at the beach and saw a bunch of Portuguese Men o'war. The lifeguard closed the beach immediately. Dafuq, is our navy returning home or something? Lel.

Interesting symbiose made of a floating jellyfish and several species of polyps. They have quite a sting.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 7:16 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 7:10 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Right. So the Theory of Gravity is merely a theory. It would be as valid to propose a theory of space pixies pressing all of us down to the surface, right? After all, it's just a theory, right?

And if, as you claim, gravity is not a theory, why is there a theory of gravity? Are you claiming that the Theory of Gravity simply does not exist?

A theory of space pixies wouldn't be as accurate as another theory of gravity (depending on the theory), but yes, they would both still be just theories. So their validity would differ, but not their composition as theories.

What do you mean by if "gravity is not a theory why would there be a theory of gravity?" I don't understand.
 
In scientific terms, space pixies would be a hypothesis at best, seeing as there is no evidence at all that space pixies exist. Do you not know the difference between the scientific definition of a theory and the colloquial definition?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
Or, for that matter, the difference between the theory of evolution and the fact of evolution?

Neither gravity nor evolution are just theories...not even in the colloquial sense.

The fact of gravity is that we see things falling. The theory of gravity by - insert here- is our best explanation of that observed fact.

The fact of evolution is that life changes. We see new structures and organisms appear, and change, and disappear. Populations become more or less dominant in their environment. The theory of evolution by -insert here- is our best explanation of that observed fact.

Another fun example. The apparent fact of abiogenesis. Creationists love to conflate abiogenesis with evolutionary theory, and criticize what theories we have, even pull the “just a theory”. - but like above it’s not.

Creationism is, itself, a competing hypothesis ( being very generous to superstition, here) as an explanation for the observed fact of abiogenesis by -insert here-.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
^^^ So...........SUCK IT JESUS!!!
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(August 7, 2019 at 9:02 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:  
In scientific terms, space pixies would be a hypothesis at best, seeing as there is no evidence at all that space pixies exist. Do you not know the difference between the scientific definition of a theory and the colloquial definition?

No ma'am, I don't know the difference. I've never heard the colloquial definition, just the scientific one. But judging from the comments, there's a difference between the scientific definition and the atheistic definition.

The professor spoke about a theory of space pixies; as such he is speaking about a theory of space pixies, not a hypothesis. Those are two separate things.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 9:02 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 7:16 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: A theory of space pixies wouldn't be as accurate as another theory of gravity (depending on the theory), but yes, they would both still be just theories. So their validity would differ, but not their composition as theories.

What do you mean by if "gravity is not a theory why would there be a theory of gravity?" I don't understand.
 
In scientific terms, space pixies would be a hypothesis at best, seeing as there is no evidence at all that space pixies exist. Do you not know the difference between the scientific definition of a theory and the colloquial definition?

If "space pixies" was a hypothesis, it would be a terrible one, scientifically speaking. Tongue
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Nailed it. Flat trolling by page 47, lol.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 11:07 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Nailed it.  Flat trolling by page 47, lol.

Yeah, at this point, given his silly space pixies argument, I find it really hard to believe he's doing cog science.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
Well, he may be...in real life. In real life, christian creationists seek out an education that’s worth a shit.

Ever was it thus. Julián apostate tells us that the Christians of his day we’re constantly complaining (to the point of rioting and harassing educators and students) about how academia got it all wrong....but they sent their kids to the schools nevertheless. His proposed solution was simple. Fine, you’ve got your magic books, go learn from that and leave the rest to we lowly heathens.

This wasn’t appealing to them in the slightest, because they’ve always known better...then and now. In other parallels to today, this became part of the myth of roman persecution.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 11:03 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 9:02 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:  
In scientific terms, space pixies would be a hypothesis at best, seeing as there is no evidence at all that space pixies exist. Do you not know the difference between the scientific definition of a theory and the colloquial definition?

If "space pixies" was a hypothesis, it would be a terrible one, scientifically speaking. Tongue

How so? Scientifically speaking, of course. What makes a good and bad hypothesis?
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