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How to easily defeat any argument for God
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 (August 5, 2019 at 10:16 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nevertheless, Acrobat, Belaqua, Drich and the likes will insist that they have ALL of the answers to those questions and everyone else is wrong. Because "god". This is not correct. Speaking for myself, I am very aware that I do not have all of the answers. Nor am I at all confident that everyone else is wrong. Particularly in regard to meanings, I find this a difficult issue to make conclusions about.  (August 5, 2019 at 3:37 am)Tom Fearnley Wrote: What do you guys think? It's my favourite argument to use against God. The thing is that arguments rarely work on religious people. They only work if some religious person is genuinely misinformed but most of the time religious people want to believe in their own crap no matter what and their "arguments" are usually nothing more than "blah blah Jesus/ Allah/ Krishna". You can show them easily that they are misinformed and that their sources lie to them, but they just don't care because they believe in God and not facts and logic.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
Sounds like a pgj thread name
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
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August 6, 2019 at 7:31 am
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2019 at 7:35 am by The Grand Nudger.)
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Idk, a description of gods as a cultural artifact is a pretty good one size fits all argument. “Prove my god doesn’t exist” - why, it does, as a cultural narrative that places human beings in relation to the cosmos and describes the proper order of things, as told by and for the culture that produced it. A more accurate understanding of what gods are and how they developed is the single most effective argument against the existential claims made about gods by the faithful. Any god, anywhere, any group of the faithful.
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 RE: How to easily defeat any argument for God
August 6, 2019 at 5:19 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2019 at 5:20 pm by Abaddon_ire.)
(August 5, 2019 at 11:44 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(August 5, 2019 at 10:16 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nevertheless, Acrobat, Belaqua, Drich and the likes will insist that they have ALL of the answers to those questions and everyone else is wrong. Because "god". Baloney. Look at your declared religious views. They are "Um...". You lack courage, conviction or honesty and quite possibly all three. Do not even contemplate pontificating to anyone about anything when you lack all three mentioned attributes. It is outright dishonest. Even my kids are in FFS territory now. They want me to go postal. They have been following along while not participants. If I followed their advice, I would likely be banned by now. Why is it that children can figure out your baloney but you cannot? Explain that? (August 6, 2019 at 5:19 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(August 5, 2019 at 11:44 pm)Belaqua Wrote: This is not correct. My declared religious views are "Um..." because I don't have all the answers and I'm not confident that everyone else is wrong. (August 6, 2019 at 5:25 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(August 6, 2019 at 5:19 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Baloney. Look at your declared religious views. They are "Um...". You lack courage, conviction or honesty and quite possibly all three. False. You are supremely confident that you are right. (August 6, 2019 at 5:27 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(August 6, 2019 at 5:25 pm)Belaqua Wrote: My declared religious views are "Um..." because I don't have all the answers and I'm not confident that everyone else is wrong. Oh, I didn't realize that. Are you confident that I am supremely confident? (August 6, 2019 at 5:31 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(August 6, 2019 at 5:27 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: False. You are supremely confident that you are right. I can only go with the evidence presented. Should I make like a bandit and just make any crap up like you? Is that what you want? Should I pretend to have no deity in mind while sneaking it in under the door just like you? No thanks. Unlike you I have values. I would normally request a protagonist at this point to re-assess their values, but I shall refrain. You had none to start with. (August 6, 2019 at 6:03 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Should I make like a bandit and just make any crap up like you? Please specify which "crap" you think I have made up. It would be better to give links, quotes, etc. I'll be happy to give my sources, or reasons. If I have accidentally "made up" something I'll apologize. |
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