It is the access!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Then your definition of " ban" is quite different from mine.

Then maybe you shouldn't redefine words to suit yourself.

In my country - when a law abiding citizen is told he isn't allowed to own guns - for no other reason than "because" -- and forces that citizen to surrender his firearms - we call that a ban.....

No law-abiding citizen in either Australia or New Zealand is ever told that he isn't allowed to own guns.  Guns are indeed prohibited to certain individuals due to things like criminal record and mental instability.  Some people lose their gun licenses for the same reasons.

No one ever been forced to 'surrender his firearms'.  Certain types of automatic and semi-automatic weapons were banned, but this took the form of a buy-back. I'm given to understand that certain types of firearms are also banned in the US.

While I (clearly) don't agree with Brian's characterization that in the US 'guns are handed out like candy', it is obviously easier to get your hands on firearms there than it is in Australia or NZ.  But anyone over the age of 16 who meets the other requirements can be licensed for air rifles, antique weapons, pistols, rifles, shotguns and semi-automatic weapons in NZ (not sure about Australia, the rules may be different).

Hardly seems like a 'ban'.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

It’s impossible to have the simplest conversation with a person who needs you to argue mere reality into being. Doesn’t matter the subject.

[Brian37]

It’s impossible to have the simplest conversation with a person who needs you to argue mere reality into being.  Doesn’t matter the subject.

It is impossible to argue with the blind whom have no interest in accepting reality.

I agree, that is outside of subject.

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Then your definition of " ban" is quite different from mine.

Then maybe you shouldn't redefine words to suit yourself.

In my country - when a law abiding citizen is told he isn't allowed to own guns - for no other reason than "because" -- and forces that citizen to surrender his firearms - we call that a ban.....

No law-abiding citizen in either Australia or New Zealand is ever told that he isn't allowed to own guns.  Guns are indeed prohibited to certain individuals due to things like criminal record and mental instability.  Some people lose their gun licenses for the same reasons.

No one ever been forced to 'surrender his firearms'.  Certain types of automatic and semi-automatic weapons were banned, but this took the form of a buy-back. I'm given to understand that certain types of firearms are also banned in the US.

While I (clearly) don't agree with Brian's characterization that in the US 'guns are handed out like candy', it is obviously easier to get your hands on firearms there than it is in Australia or NZ.  But anyone over the age of 16 who meets the other requirements can be licensed for air rifles, antique weapons, pistols, rifles, shotguns and semi-automatic weapons in NZ (not sure about Australia, the rules may be different).

Hardly seems like a 'ban'.

Boru

Yes firearms are handed out like candy.

It is easier to get your hands on firearms than Australia and NZ, and that is the fucking problem

If everyone agrees we should keep them out of the wrong hands, then they shouldn't be that easy to get.

And I agree keeping them out of the wrong hands is not a ban. I simply argue that prevention is best served at time of sale, not waiting until something bad happens after the sale.

Firearm companies and shop owners would not have the stigma they do if they gave a shit. But it isn't about protecting law abiding citizens, it is about protecting sales.

[onlinebiker]

Then your definition of " ban" is quite different from mine.

Then maybe you shouldn't redefine words to suit yourself.
K

In my country - when a law abiding citizen is told he isn't allowed to own guns - for no other reason than "because" -- and forces that citizen to surrender his firearms - we call that a ban.....

No law-abiding citizen in either Australia or New Zealand is ever told that he isn't allowed to own guns.  Guns are indeed prohibited to certain individuals due to things like criminal record and mental instability.  Some people lose their gun licenses for the same reasons.

No one ever been forced to 'surrender his firearms'.  Certain types of automatic and semi-automatic weapons were banned, but this took the form of a buy-back. I'm given to understand that certain types of firearms are also banned in the US.

While I (clearly) don't agree with Brian's characterization that in the US 'guns are handed out like candy', it is obviously easier to get your hands on firearms there than it is in Australia or NZ.  But anyone over the age of 16 who meets the other requirements can be licensed for air rifles, antique weapons, pistols, rifles, shotguns and semi-automatic weapons in NZ (not sure about Australia, the rules may be different).

Hardly seems like a 'ban'.

Boru

Simple question. 

Can a person living in an apartment building who does not target shoot - or hunt - legally own a gun?

[Brian37]

Siri Gibberish Translator.... "America is perfect, nobody dies from firearm violence in America."

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Then maybe you shouldn't redefine words to suit yourself.
K

No law-abiding citizen in either Australia or New Zealand is ever told that he isn't allowed to own guns.  Guns are indeed prohibited to certain individuals due to things like criminal record and mental instability.  Some people lose their gun licenses for the same reasons.

No one ever been forced to 'surrender his firearms'.  Certain types of automatic and semi-automatic weapons were banned, but this took the form of a buy-back. I'm given to understand that certain types of firearms are also banned in the US.

While I (clearly) don't agree with Brian's characterization that in the US 'guns are handed out like candy', it is obviously easier to get your hands on firearms there than it is in Australia or NZ.  But anyone over the age of 16 who meets the other requirements can be licensed for air rifles, antique weapons, pistols, rifles, shotguns and semi-automatic weapons in NZ (not sure about Australia, the rules may be different).

Hardly seems like a 'ban'.

Boru

Simple question. 

Can a person living in an apartment building who does not target shoot - or hunt - legally own a gun?

Yes. You just need a collector's endorsement on your gun license.  Note that this endorsement will NOT prevent you from using your collector's items for hunting or sport shooting if you so desire.

Boru

[LastPoet]

Simple question. 

Can a person living in an apartment building who does not target shoot - or hunt - legally own a gun?

Yes. You just need a collector's endorsement on your gun license.  Note that this endorsement will NOT prevent you from using your collector's items for hunting or sport shooting if you so desire.

Boru

In an apartment it's better any melee weapon you can find, except for the case you wake up with a gun to your head, but in that case, a gun was just as uselesd.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yes. You just need a collector's endorsement on your gun license.  Note that this endorsement will NOT prevent you from using your collector's items for hunting or sport shooting if you so desire.

Boru

In an apartment it's better any melee weapon you can find, except for the case you wake up with a gun to your head, but in that case, a gun was just as uselesd.

I'm fairly sure there's no restriction on owning a mace, Morningstar or broadsword, all of which make acceptable melee weapons.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

Simple question. 

Can a person living in an apartment building who does not target shoot - or hunt - legally own a gun?

Yes. You just need a collector's endorsement on your gun license.  Note that this endorsement will NOT prevent you from using your collector's items for hunting or sport shooting if you so desire.

Boru

According to this - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_New_Zealand

It's not that simple. The numbers of licensees -(very few)  seems to bear that thought out.

If you have lots of money - I suppose you can own a gun.

If you're poor? Notta chance.


I suspect that is by design.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yes. You just need a collector's endorsement on your gun license.  Note that this endorsement will NOT prevent you from using your collector's items for hunting or sport shooting if you so desire.

Boru

According to this - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_New_Zealand

It's not that simple. The numbers of licensees -(very few)  seems to bear that thought out.

If you have lots of money - I suppose you can own a gun.

If you're poor? Notta chance.


I suspect that is by design.

Yeah, it looks like I was mistaken about using collectibles for shooting - they have to be in an inoperable conditions.  Still, you can own them.

About 300 000 people in NZ have a firearms license.  It's a small country.

Not sure why you mean by 'lots of money'.  The fee for a firearms license is $126.50, or about $80 US.  That's not a lot.

Boru