This is what religious conservatives does.

[The Valkyrie]

What was that fuckers logic?

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Banning higher education because it’s a “liberal breeding ground.”

[The Grand Nudger]

Yeah I got that. The usual conservative eliminationist rhetoric.

They’ve been dismantling education for decades. Saying it this way just puts it on message for the American Reich.

[The Valkyrie]

He’s a typical Trumpite.

Unfortunately it appears to be working. It explains how Trump could be elected as only the uneducated masses could possibly vote for policies that aren’t in their best interests.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Your whataboutism was evident in every line of your reply to Brian. Instead of addressing what that dimwitted pol actually said (other than calling it hyperbole, with no basis to do so),

My basis for calling it hyperbole is because the person that said it said it was hyperbole.  

all you really had to say boiled down to, 'You should point out that other people do the same thing', which is the essence of whataboutism.

And so you are making my point about the state of america.  When I said that my point in pointing out that liberals do the same thing was not to excuse the conservative that said something, you told me that I was wrong and that I really did mean to use whataboutism when that was not my intent.  

This is why I said that we need more grace for others and allow people to clarify or retract statements they make in which they did not mean, we refuse to do that for people we disagree with.

1.  Well, that's valid - the person that said it said it was hyperbole.  It couldn't be that he said it without thinking and is too ashamed to admit  that he made a stupid, hypocritical remark.

2.  If Senator Slugnutty opts to retract his statement and say that higher education is not the breeding ground of liberal thinking, I'll be happy to listen.

Boru

[Rev. Rye]

This is what creates theocracies and dictatorships throughout human history. But this attitude here in America scares the shit out of me. We cannot tolerate this message growing and gaining popularity.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/tennes...l-together

If we go by this fucker's logic, then the Taliban would be right for shooting Malala.

He was using hyperbole.  He has voted for public money for higher education and sponsored bills for prisoners to have access to college programs as well as statewide master plan for public universities in Tennessee.  He was reacting to a woman that was yelling at him.  He is not calling for the abolishment of higher education.  This is one reason we are so divided.  That whatever we say will be taken out of context and used against us.  Find real things you don't like about him to push back on.

I think there is a small germ of truth in what you're saying. The more I look at it, the more convinced I become that Republicans don't even have much of an ideology anymore beyond gainsaying that anything that anyone to the left of them says is bad is good and vice versa.





I can't be sure that they actually believe that higher education should be abolished, but at this point, I think the question of what they actually believe in their heart of hearts isn't even relevant anymore. If what they actually believed mattered to them, they'd either have bucked the trend of Religious Rightism or they'd have fought against Trump at some point. What matters for them now is winning. And if winning means America ends up like this (with the sole exception being that they're actually speaking English), then so be it:

[no one]

Ifn' peeples goes and getz tha smartzes, they'll know that's not rain in their ears.

[Drich]

This is what creates theocracies and dictatorships throughout human history. But this attitude here in America scares the shit out of me. We cannot tolerate this message growing and gaining popularity.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/tennes...l-together

If we go by this fucker's logic, then the Taliban would be right for shooting Malala.

This senator is not the first to claim higher education is a liberal breeding ground/indoctrination process.

Remember day after trump won office? what was the claim?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/10/the...-democrat/

It was the "uneducated" was the reason trump won office. clinton called us the deplorables. Remember that?

This is not a new thing. no one is being fooled into thinking there is not a huge bias being incorporated into the curriculum. You d-bags even admit it when you lost the presidency.

If the roles were reversed would you not demand that their be a separation between politics and education? Oh wait, you already make such a demand, but you hide behind the first amendment when you demand this separation.

[The Grand Nudger]

Clinton called some of you trumpettes deplorables. If you think the term fits you, so be it.

Can’t say I disagree. Looks like she got it right, huh?


Anyhoo, Enough about Hitlary Killington. If facts and education have a strong liberal bias.....we’ll, tough luck I guess? You could continue to bullshit your way through that, ofc, it clearly works.

Libs do tend to think that education makes people less susceptible to alt right trash....but I don’t believe that’s true. Mostly, because politics has less to do with the way things are than the way we want them to be. A smart and well educated person can realize that the long con of right wing economics doesn’t work.....but really wish it did, and would try to -make- it work.

[Vince]

1.  Well, that's valid - the person that said it said it was hyperbole.  It couldn't be that he said it without thinking and is too ashamed to admit  that he made a stupid, hypocritical remark.

Could be, but how can you possibly know?  You have no evidence to support this claim but there is evidence that he does not want to eliminate higher education.  Why believe something contrary to the available evidence?

2.  If Senator Slugnutty opts to retract his statement and say that higher education is not the breeding ground of liberal thinking, I'll be happy to listen.

Weren't we talking about his statement that he wants to eliminate higher education?  I bet he does think that higher ed is a breeding ground for liberal thinking.  The hyperbole he was talking about was his statement of eliminating higher ed.

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He was using hyperbole.  He has voted for public money for higher education and sponsored bills for prisoners to have access to college programs as well as statewide master plan for public universities in Tennessee.  He was reacting to a woman that was yelling at him.  He is not calling for the abolishment of higher education.  This is one reason we are so divided.  That whatever we say will be taken out of context and used against us.  Find real things you don't like about him to push back on.

I think there is a small germ of truth in what you're saying. The more I look at it, the more convinced I become that Republicans don't even have much of an ideology anymore beyond gainsaying that anything that anyone to the left of them says is bad is good and vice versa.





I can't be sure that they actually believe that higher education should be abolished, but at this point, I think the question of what they actually believe in their heart of hearts isn't even relevant anymore. If what they actually believed mattered to them, they'd either have bucked the trend of Religious Rightism or they'd have fought against Trump at some point. What matters for them now is winning. And if winning means America ends up like this (with the sole exception being that they're actually speaking English), then so be it:

I gave up on national politics last election.  I only voted in local elections.  The thing is all this you have said about the alt right can be said about the extreme left as well.  They wouldn't hang intellectuals, they would hang the religious and useless though.

No politician on the national stage can push the answers we need to rectify our ship, because if they did they would not get elected. How is dealing with our debt an electable position?  As soon as you mention cutting a program people on both sides start screaming that it will kill people and that the opposition wants to kill children etc.  It is a ridiculous situation.  The US is screwed, just not sure how long before we fall off the cliff.

[Lek]

I think you may want to look into this further. He was not quoted as saying he wanted to get rid of higher education.