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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 4:44 pm
(November 19, 2019 at 4:39 pm)brewer Wrote: (November 19, 2019 at 4:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No. The law specifically prevents them from doing so. The can neither reward nor punish a student for religious content.
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To a teacher with religion what is "calculated using ordinary academic standards of substance and relevance"?
2 +2 = 4. It doesn't equal eight or eleven or the Beatitudes. For the record, most teachers are very likely religious to a greater or lesser extent, and grading on the basis of religious content has never seemed to be much of an issue. The law doesn't seem to be damaging, but it does seem to be unnecessary.
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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 4:50 pm
(November 19, 2019 at 4:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 19, 2019 at 4:39 pm)brewer Wrote: To a teacher with religion what is "calculated using ordinary academic standards of substance and relevance"?
2 +2 = 4. It doesn't equal eight or eleven or the Beatitudes. For the record, most teachers are very likely religious to a greater or lesser extent, and grading on the basis of religious content has never seemed to be much of an issue. The law doesn't seem to be damaging, but it does seem to be unnecessary.
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Guess we'll have to wait and see if it passes and then is tested in the courts.
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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 4:53 pm
(November 19, 2019 at 4:50 pm)brewer Wrote: (November 19, 2019 at 4:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 2 +2 = 4. It doesn't equal eight or eleven or the Beatitudes. For the record, most teachers are very likely religious to a greater or lesser extent, and grading on the basis of religious content has never seemed to be much of an issue. The law doesn't seem to be damaging, but it does seem to be unnecessary.
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Guess we'll have to wait and see if it passes and then is tested in the courts.
But there's nothing to test. Has Ohio been plagued by grading scandals involving students inserting the word 'Jesus' into their exams?
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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 5:05 pm
(November 19, 2019 at 4:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 19, 2019 at 4:50 pm)brewer Wrote: Guess we'll have to wait and see if it passes and then is tested in the courts.
But there's nothing to test. Has Ohio been plagued by grading scandals involving students inserting the word 'Jesus' into their exams?
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I think you know it's more than just inserting jesus. And because this religious liberty has never been a law previously (assuming it passes) we don't know if there will be an incident that requires a test.
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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 5:09 pm
I absolutely disagree with these shitty allowances that continue to foster these Christianity-based privileges in society, but it seems like it's basically a "it's not what you think, but how you think" which in principle (at least) is a good thing.
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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 5:10 pm
(November 19, 2019 at 5:09 pm)Grandizer Wrote: I absolutely disagree with these shitty allowances that continue to foster these Christianity-based privileges in society, but it seems like it's basically a "it's not what you think, but how you think" which in principle (at least) is a good thing.
It's not fostering a Christianity-based privilege. It's preventing one.
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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 7:07 pm
(November 19, 2019 at 5:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 19, 2019 at 5:09 pm)Grandizer Wrote: I absolutely disagree with these shitty allowances that continue to foster these Christianity-based privileges in society, but it seems like it's basically a "it's not what you think, but how you think" which in principle (at least) is a good thing.
It's not fostering a Christianity-based privilege. It's preventing one.
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Then the bill should be titled secular liberty. Or not exist at all (this would be best).
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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 7:26 pm
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(November 19, 2019 at 5:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 19, 2019 at 5:09 pm)Grandizer Wrote: I absolutely disagree with these shitty allowances that continue to foster these Christianity-based privileges in society, but it seems like it's basically a "it's not what you think, but how you think" which in principle (at least) is a good thing.
It's not fostering a Christianity-based privilege. It's preventing one.
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Hahahahahahahaha! No, no..it's okay, you don't understand Ohio (who would?), and that's understandable.
Yes, it's explicitly aimed at evangelical conservatives. Yes, it would let them blow jesus all over their tests and claim persecution. Best case scenario, is that it's just a shameless attempt to pander to that demographic ahead of 2020, that will amount to nothing.
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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 7:33 pm
I thought that was just DA.
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RE: More religious liberty in Ohio
November 19, 2019 at 7:39 pm
(November 19, 2019 at 7:26 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (November 19, 2019 at 5:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It's not fostering a Christianity-based privilege. It's preventing one.
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Hahahahahahahaha! No, no..it's okay, you don't understand Ohio (who would?), and that's understandable.
Yes, it's explicitly aimed at evangelical conservatives. Yes, it would let them blow jesus all over their tests and claim persecution. Best case scenario, is that it's just a shameless attempt to pander to that demographic ahead of 2020, that will amount to nothing.
Hahahahahahahaha!
You should read the bill. ALL of the bill. I don't know I can make it any plainer: It specifically prevents a student from getting a better grade for invoking Jesus (or any other religious idea).
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