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Protests in Zagreb
#11
RE: Protests in Zagreb
(November 28, 2019 at 3:14 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(November 28, 2019 at 11:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: I don't know now, I am taking most of my information about those kinds of stuff from TPortal. Guess if they don't agree on the details, they are mostly making stuff up.

I suppose you have the right to have an opinion and you should vote if you're able. Find information from varied sources, make your choices as a citizen.
Obviously, I can't vote for the protests to end. And I think Tportal is a more reliable source about things that happen in Croatia than New York Times is. Tportal journalists at least speak Croatian and are able to inform themselves by asking people who speak Croatian. New York Times journalists aren't required to speak Croatian to write about Croatia, right? So, what they say is even less reliable than my guesses are.
(November 28, 2019 at 3:45 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: If I was in Zagreb I’d be protesting too.

Why?
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#12
RE: Protests in Zagreb
You do know that education is one of the most vital parts of an economy, don't you? Investing in education is one of the smartest things a country can do. With that in mind teachers should be paid maybe as much as MDs or even more in my opinion, but only if they are competent, if they aren't then they shouldn t get a rise in salary.
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#13
RE: Protests in Zagreb
(November 29, 2019 at 8:20 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: You do know that education is one of the most vital parts of an economy, don't you? Investing in education is one of the smartest things a country can do. With that in mind teachers should be paid maybe as much as MDs or even more in my opinion, but only if they are competent, if they aren't then they shouldn t get a rise in salary.

Teachers right now are mostly paid to teach useless stuff. I mean, they teach children to analyze poetry and to hate capitalism. And to demand that children know Latin. I am not saying it's not interesting to know those stuff, after all, it's enabled me to publish a few YouTube videos in Latin. However, I'd rather that I've spent that time learning more useful stuff than to speak Latin.
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#14
RE: Protests in Zagreb
(November 29, 2019 at 10:17 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(November 29, 2019 at 8:20 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: You do know that education is one of the most vital parts of an economy, don't you? Investing in education is one of the smartest things a country can do. With that in mind teachers should be paid maybe as much as MDs or even more in my opinion, but only if they are competent, if they aren't then they shouldn t get a rise in salary.

Teachers right now are mostly paid to teach useless stuff. I mean, they teach children to analyze poetry and to hate capitalism. And to demand that children know Latin. I am not saying it's not interesting to know those stuff, after all, it's enabled me to publish a few YouTube videos in Latin. However, I'd rather that I've spent that time learning more useful stuff than to speak Latin.
As I was expecting the situation in your country is not too different from my own. You should have sayed that in the original post. 
I do think that the government should invest heavily in education but as thing are now, I Don t want some people that lack competency to be enriched for uneducating children.
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#15
RE: Protests in Zagreb
(November 29, 2019 at 10:17 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(November 29, 2019 at 8:20 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: You do know that education is one of the most vital parts of an economy, don't you? Investing in education is one of the smartest things a country can do. With that in mind teachers should be paid maybe as much as MDs or even more in my opinion, but only if they are competent, if they aren't then they shouldn t get a rise in salary.

Teachers right now are mostly paid to teach useless stuff. I mean, they teach children to analyze poetry and to hate capitalism. And to demand that children know Latin. I am not saying it's not interesting to know those stuff, after all, it's enabled me to publish a few YouTube videos in Latin. However, I'd rather that I've spent that time learning more useful stuff than to speak Latin.

That's all well and good, but you're going to feel a right nitwit when the day comes that there aren't enough Poetry Analyzation Specialists to meet the demand.  Fewer PAS means the price to get your poems analyzed is going to skyrocket.  Even worse, it's going to be a boon to the black market in poem analyzation.

'Psst.  Wanna buy some anapestic tetrameter?  Good as new - it fell off the back of a lorry.'  

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#16
RE: Protests in Zagreb
(November 29, 2019 at 8:07 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(November 28, 2019 at 3:45 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: If I was in Zagreb I’d be protesting too.

Why?

Probably because it's fecking Zagreb.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#17
RE: Protests in Zagreb
(November 29, 2019 at 12:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 29, 2019 at 8:07 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Why?

Probably because it's fecking Zagreb.

Boru

We have bare naked women protests in PRT. I will get a nffw link. Hang on

I have the video, but it would make the mods, troubled. I wouldn't wish it to myself. Woman strips naked and jumps from the d. Louie bridge (rip gustav eiffel). She had dangling tits too.
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#18
RE: Protests in Zagreb
(November 29, 2019 at 10:22 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(November 29, 2019 at 10:17 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Teachers right now are mostly paid to teach useless stuff. I mean, they teach children to analyze poetry and to hate capitalism. And to demand that children know Latin. I am not saying it's not interesting to know those stuff, after all, it's enabled me to publish a few YouTube videos in Latin. However, I'd rather that I've spent that time learning more useful stuff than to speak Latin.
As I was expecting the situation in your country is not too different from my own. You should have sayed that in the original post. 
I do think that the government should invest heavily in education but as thing are now, I Don t want some people that lack competency to be enriched for uneducating children.
But don't you think that, if the government invests more in schools, our education system will be even more full of Nazi propaganda? For instance, my history textbook tells me that most scientists agree that Great Flood happened. It also tells me that, during the Holocaust, many Jews tortured and killed other Jews. And the Massacre of Vukovar is barely mentioned (the fact that a Serbian guy who organized it, Željko Ražnatović, was later convicted, isn't mentioned, neither is the fact that global media accused the Croatian president Franjo Tuđman of intentionally refusing to give weapons to the soldiers), and Massacre of Varivode isn't mentioned at all. Maybe only private schools should be allowed to teach history, since public schools are so full of propaganda. And private schools would probably teach more useful stuff than Latin.

(November 29, 2019 at 12:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 29, 2019 at 10:17 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Teachers right now are mostly paid to teach useless stuff. I mean, they teach children to analyze poetry and to hate capitalism. And to demand that children know Latin. I am not saying it's not interesting to know those stuff, after all, it's enabled me to publish a few YouTube videos in Latin. However, I'd rather that I've spent that time learning more useful stuff than to speak Latin.

That's all well and good, but you're going to feel a right nitwit when the day comes that there aren't enough Poetry Analyzation Specialists to meet the demand.  Fewer PAS means the price to get your poems analyzed is going to skyrocket.  Even worse, it's going to be a boon to the black market in poem analyzation.

'Psst.  Wanna buy some anapestic tetrameter?  Good as new - it fell off the back of a lorry.'  

Boru
I am not sure what you mean. Public schools don't teach you enough to publish papers, if anything, they teach us just enough to get into trouble.

(November 29, 2019 at 12:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 29, 2019 at 8:07 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Why?

Probably because it's fecking Zagreb.

Boru
I am not sure what you mean. By the way, what do you think the name Zagreb means? I think it comes from Messapian *Zigurevos, from "zis" (God) and "gures" (hill), so that it means "God's hill".
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#19
RE: Protests in Zagreb
(November 30, 2019 at 2:51 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(November 29, 2019 at 10:22 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: As I was expecting the situation in your country is not too different from my own. You should have sayed that in the original post. 
I do think that the government should invest heavily in education but as thing are now, I Don t want some people that lack competency to be enriched for uneducating children.
But don't you think that, if the government invests more in schools, our education system will be even more full of Nazi propaganda? For instance, my history textbook tells me that most scientists agree that Great Flood happened. It also tells me that, during the Holocaust, many Jews tortured and killed other Jews. And the Massacre of Vukovar is barely mentioned (the fact that a Serbian guy who organized it, Željko Ražnatović, was later convicted, isn't mentioned, neither is the fact that global media accused the Croatian president Franjo Tuđman of intentionally refusing to give weapons to the soldiers), and Massacre of Varivode isn't mentioned at all. Maybe only private schools should be allowed to teach history, since public schools are so full of propaganda. And private schools would probably teach more useful stuff than Latin.

(November 29, 2019 at 12:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's all well and good, but you're going to feel a right nitwit when the day comes that there aren't enough Poetry Analyzation Specialists to meet the demand.  Fewer PAS means the price to get your poems analyzed is going to skyrocket.  Even worse, it's going to be a boon to the black market in poem analyzation.

'Psst.  Wanna buy some anapestic tetrameter?  Good as new - it fell off the back of a lorry.'  

Boru
I am not sure what you mean. Public schools don't teach you enough to publish papers, if anything, they teach us just enough to get into trouble.

(November 29, 2019 at 12:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Probably because it's fecking Zagreb.

Boru
I am not sure what you mean. By the way, what do you think the name Zagreb means? I think it comes from Messapian *Zigurevos, from "zis" (God) and "gures" (hill), so that it means "God's hill".

Of COURSE public schools don't teach enough to publish papers, but so what?  The idea is to instill or encourage in young minds the passion and drive to analyze poetry.  Then, they can go on to university, take their degree in Poetry Analyzation and change the world.

Thanks for telling me what 'Zagreb' means, I never knew that.  The name of my home town translates to 'the middle townlands' and the name of my capital city means (more or less) 'the river mouth nearest the sandbar'.

Cool, huh?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#20
RE: Protests in Zagreb
BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:The idea is to instill or encourage in young minds the passion and drive to analyze poetry.
I think they are trying to do that the very wrong way. Children aren't going to become interested in history because of the nationalist propaganda they were forced to study in schools, if anything, they will not want to study history further, the same goes for poetry. Similarly, the students probably won't become interested in programming if it's taught them the way it's way it's being taught in public schools.
BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Thanks for telling me what 'Zagreb' means, I never knew that.
You don't know that even know, because I don't know either. That's just my opinion, it's not endorsed by any expert.
BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:The name of my home town translates to 'the middle townlands' and the name of my capital city means (more or less) 'the river mouth nearest the sandbar'.
So, what is your home country? A quick search for a name meaning "sandy river mouth" gives me only "Pinguisibi".
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