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[Serious] Why are you an Atheist?
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 (December 17, 2019 at 4:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:How do you know that they have failed to provide you the proof if you don’t know what the proof is? Have you looked in the pudding though.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
I have a better question and the fact that nobody can provide a rational cogent answer is the main reason I abandoned all god concepts:
What is God?  (December 17, 2019 at 5:00 pm)Alex K Wrote:(December 17, 2019 at 4:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Just checked my kitchen. Nothing so far. She wouldn't fit. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
 (December 17, 2019 at 4:42 pm)maxolla Wrote: that’s exactly it. There is no proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. Your answer is my answer. Brilliant answer BTW, spoken from the heart which is the place of true understanding and knowledge. There are all kinds of proofs that come without doubts, just not any for fantasy creatures.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
 (December 17, 2019 at 4:42 pm)maxolla Wrote:No, the heart is a muscle.(December 17, 2019 at 4:27 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I would know it when I saw it because it would convince me. Like falling in love; I knew I was going to get married but if you asked me who I was going to be married to I wouldn't have an answer, but when I met her it was obvious. The brain is where knowledge comes from. Trust me on this... Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"  (December 17, 2019 at 5:01 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I have a better question and the fact that nobody can provide a rational cogent answer is the main reason I abandoned all god concepts: A god is an imaginary concept that humans create when they anthropomorphize a feature of nature that they don't fully understand.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
(December 17, 2019 at 6:43 pm)Rahn127 Wrote:(December 17, 2019 at 5:01 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I have a better question and the fact that nobody can provide a rational cogent answer is the main reason I abandoned all god concepts: To non-believers sometimes, but even believers have to resort to wooey non-sequiters to describe God and even then it is barely a sketch and they often disagree on fundamental things like how many there are, what triune really means. like three things or one thing in three parts? They will say really dumb shit like is *exists* outside *spacetime* NRRGGGGHHH it is *dancing* with the *campers* because they do not *play* nice RE: Why are you an Atheist?
December 18, 2019 at 12:43 am
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2019 at 12:47 am by The Grand Nudger.)
A Bad™ definition..is still a definition. The god concept doesn't fail for a lack of defining things. That's all that god concepts do to begin with. They define the sacred, and our relationship to the sacred -even if nothing actually is "sacred" in any less-than-novel sense.
Point is, they do the defining regardless of whether there's an actual referent, and so the objection from a lack of definition is a non-starter.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Any sufficiently advanced being could convince me it was God. As a mere mortal, I am not competent to tell the difference between God and any number of conceivable powerful beings capable of powerful feats or just manipulating my perceptions. For that matter, I can imagine having great difficulty telling God from a hallucinatory experience.
Even if God were real, there are logical problems with it being able to prove that it's the reputed tri-Omni deity that created all of existence (except itself because it was always there, for some reason or none). A real God couldn't do anything to convince us that aforementioned perception manipulators couldn't. It can't demonstrate that it's the tri-Omni Creator, it can only demonstrate that it's really powerful, or at least appears to be. Once you're above a certain level of power or illusion, we mortals can't tell the difference. That said, I will gladly believe any reality or perception warper that claims to be God if it keeps it from torturing me.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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