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[Quranic Reflection]: Magic
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
(December 29, 2019 at 11:55 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Atlas..lol..... the part of your magic book that you quoted is telling a story from old magic book, about how their magic beat the other guys magic.

Not really, since the Quran and the Roman-bible are quite independent.
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#22
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
(December 29, 2019 at 10:01 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
Quote:Yeah, wow that you really are that gullible. It's a little sad. Until one realises that you want it. You dont believe it because it is true, or has evidence to back it up, or anything. You simply want it to be true.

Believe me; one of the main reasons that keep me hanging to Islam and the Quran -and of course their God- is the grim truth of the universe when you remove God from the equation.

Hehe he just admitted to it. Cant believe it.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#23
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
(December 29, 2019 at 10:01 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: this book can't be used to move mountains or cast spells -even if the Shamans of the Sunni/Shiite institutions lied to you and told you so-.

Where did the Sunni claim our holy book can *move mountains* ? What kind of ridiculous accusation is that?

And you belong to what institution exactly?
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
(December 30, 2019 at 8:05 am)Klorophyll Wrote:
(December 29, 2019 at 10:01 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: this book can't be used to move mountains or cast spells -even if the Shamans of the Sunni/Shiite institutions lied to you and told you so-.

Where did the Sunni claim our holy book can *move mountains* ? What kind of ridiculous accusation is that?

And you belong to what institution exactly?

I don't negotiate with terrorists:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-60077-p...pid1947915
Quote:Klorophyll Wrote:


Again, I deny the existence of a verse who mentions apostasy. I know it's enforced and I know it's there in the Islamic jurisprudence based on an authentic hadith.
And if it is established by a court of Islamic law that it is actual treason (which is extremely complicated to establish and requires incontrovertible proof already) then yes, the punishment is death.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
(December 30, 2019 at 8:31 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(December 30, 2019 at 8:05 am)Klorophyll Wrote: Where did the Sunni claim our holy book can *move mountains* ? What kind of ridiculous accusation is that?

And you belong to what institution exactly?

I don't negotiate with terrorists:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-60077-p...pid1947915
Quote:Klorophyll Wrote:


Again, I deny the existence of a verse who mentions apostasy. I know it's enforced and I know it's there in the Islamic jurisprudence based on an authentic hadith.
And if it is established by a court of Islamic law that it is actual treason (which is extremely complicated to establish and requires incontrovertible proof already) then yes, the punishment is death.

Yeah, deny the hadiths just because you can't handle criticism. I am proud to be a terrorist, as defined by Atlas. Hehe
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
(December 30, 2019 at 2:02 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(December 29, 2019 at 11:55 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Atlas..lol..... the part of your magic book that you quoted is telling a story from old magic book, about how their magic beat the other guys magic.

Not really, since the Quran and the Roman-bible are quite independent.

What do you mean not really you fucking loon?  Your magic book is recounting the story of moses and his magical duel with the egyptian wizards.  That's not exactly and independent narrative, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
(December 30, 2019 at 9:38 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: What do you mean not really you fucking loon?  Your magic book is recounting the story of moses and his magical duel with the egyptian wizards.  That's not exactly and independent narrative, lol.

The Qur'an doesn't consider what Moses did to be magical, winning the *duel* was with God's help so that Moses produces the miracle (not exactly equivalent to magic, islamically) of a stick turning into a living snake. Assuming that's what Atlas meant anyway.
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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#28
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
If all Atlas is saying is that the Quran defines magic as trickery rather than real manipulation of arcane forces, I'm inclined to agree with that assessment.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#29
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
If other religions do it, it's magic, in my in my religion according to its tenets, its a miracle. Now, that's serious contortiornism
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#30
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Magic
Gods help..with magic. Jesus christ, stop.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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