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Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
#31
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
Yes, I'd completely forgotten about the rapey stuff. Agree with the comment above.
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#32
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
(January 27, 2020 at 1:17 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Am I the only one on the planet who didn’t forget that this guy had a credible sexual assault allegation against him? I‘m not saying the guy deserved to die, and I can’t imagine what his wife is going through right now, but the way the media is treating him like some kind of god is, frankly, sickening.
How about we not go there...

The allegation was not credible, the PROSECUTORS dropped the case. Also the accuser was bragging about having sex with Kobe and had had the semen of multiple men on her drawers, so unless she has a habit of not washing her ass, she had sex with multiple people that day.

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#33
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
(January 30, 2020 at 10:51 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: The allegation was not credible, the PROSECUTORS dropped the case. Also the accuser was bragging about having sex with Kobe and had had the semen of multiple men on her drawers, so unless she has a habit of not washing her ass, she had sex with multiple people that day.

Listen, I understand that persecutors dropped the case and you could have ended your post right there, because the rest of the post looks like a smear campaign from you against that woman. And I don't understand why you are rude like that, Huggy, especially since Kobe himself wrote an apology to her saying that, while he does not believe a rape occurred, a rape may in fact have occurred.
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#34
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
(January 26, 2020 at 11:18 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I don't understand why this type of accident still happens. GPS can give you a 3-D representation of where you are superimposed over a 3-D topographical map. An aircraft like an S-76 is worth > $10 million U.S. The cost of such a system is absolutely trivial compared to the cost of the aircraft - to say nothing of human operators and cargo.

Shit is going to happen outside of our ability to control but controlled flight into terrain should no longer be happening. GPS should have eliminated this type of accident more than a decade ago.

Groundhog.....


GPS tells you WHERE you are - but not your attitude in relation to the planet.

Your coordinates read the same inverted.
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#35
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
(January 27, 2020 at 1:17 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Am I the only one on the planet who didn’t forget that this guy had a credible sexual assault allegation against him? I‘m not saying the guy deserved to die, and I can’t imagine what his wife is going through right now, but the way the media is treating him like some kind of god is, frankly, sickening.

Credible allegations =/= guilty. I'm not into not believing victims, but I also don't lambaste the accused unless I see evidence that I consider irrefutable. Therefore, I don't think of Kobe as a rapist. He definitely cheated on his wife and shit, but he was one of the greatest basketball players in the world and died with his young daughter sitting next to him under tragic circumstances. It merits talking about.
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#36
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
(January 31, 2020 at 3:05 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(January 30, 2020 at 10:51 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: The allegation was not credible, the PROSECUTORS dropped the case. Also the accuser was bragging about having sex with Kobe and had had the semen of multiple men on her drawers, so unless she has a habit of not washing her ass, she had sex with multiple people that day.

Listen, I understand that persecutors dropped the case and you could have ended your post right there, because the rest of the post looks like a smear campaign from you against that woman. And I don't understand why you are rude like that, Huggy, especially since Kobe himself wrote an apology to her saying that, while he does not believe a rape occurred, a rape may in fact have occurred.

Yeah, the semen thing was a weird add-on, but I do believe the fact that she was seen bragging about the incident makes it much less likely to have been rape. That's not to say it wasn't, but both admitted they had sex, and she appears to have possibly told people it was consensual before pressing charges. Unfortunately, that hurt her case if she was indeed raped.
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#37
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
(January 31, 2020 at 1:03 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(January 27, 2020 at 1:17 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Am I the only one on the planet who didn’t forget that this guy had a credible sexual assault allegation against him? I‘m not saying the guy deserved to die, and I can’t imagine what his wife is going through right now, but the way the media is treating him like some kind of god is, frankly, sickening.

Credible allegations =/= guilty. I'm not into not believing victims, but I also don't lambaste the accused unless I see evidence that I consider irrefutable. Therefore, I don't think of Kobe as a rapist. He definitely cheated on his wife and shit, but he was one of the greatest basketball players in the world and died with his young daughter sitting next to him under tragic circumstances. It merits talking about.

Be it OJ, or Casey Anthony, one does not have to like the nature of any charge, nor do we have to like the outcome of any trial, but we do have a duty to the constitution in respecting due process and presumption of innocence.

I don't think of Kobe rapist either. Even he admitted that he misunderstood the situation. That is not the same as saying, "I forced her to do it."

I do take this personally having falsely been accused of things I did not do. 

#1....... A long time ago, in a private school, our school had a field day on the playground which was atop a hill, overlooking the major road. There was a wall and metal banister preventing anyone on the playground from falling onto the sidewalk next to the road 15 or 20 feet down.  So I was bored, went to the railing and simply was watching the traffic go by. One car passed, the passenger side front tire kicked up a rock which dinged the passenger door. The asshole driving the car assumed I had thrown a rock at his car. 

So he pulls into the parking lot, and proceeds to find the principle and claim someone threw the rock at his car. The principle in turn, stopped our play day, took us all into the cafeteria and told us the play day would only resume if someone confessed.  Stupid me went up to him, and told him the truth. He automatically assumed I was lying. The entire staff and all the students hated me because everyone stayed till the busses came to pick us up to take us home, because I would not confess.

#2 Back in college I did an internship at a cable news TV station. I was impressed with the editing technology and made the stupid remark to a male secretary that "I'd love to drive a U-Haul up and load it up. It was my bad joke of saying I love the technology.  Late in my internship, a camera(AND BELIEVE ME, news cameras cost more than many cars), went missing. It was frightening to have police even question me. 

While the first example may seem mundane, it is no fun to have hundreds of people assume the worst. In the second example, it is no fun for law to look at you knowing you didn't do anything wrong.
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#38
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
Most people have been falsely accused of something or other, Brian. I once spent seven months in prison for something I didn’t do.  

So, put your best face on and realize that you’re bloody lucky.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#39
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
(January 31, 2020 at 2:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Most people have been falsely accused of something or other, Brian. I once spent seven months in prison for something I didn’t do.  

So, put your best face on and realize that you’re bloody lucky.

Boru

Boru, as much as a pain in the ass you can be sometimes, this is one time I 100% agree with you. I am damned fucking lucky!

Posts like this make me look forward to your contrarian bent. 

And in all seriousness. I cant imagine spending one day in jail for something I did not do. I am sorry you went through that.

The irony in my stories, is that if cops had caught me for all the stupid shit I did as a teen, I would have really been in trouble. I smoked pot, I did acid and vandalized property for fun. I was a fucking dumbass follower in my teens.
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#40
RE: Kobe Bryant dead from Helicopter crash
(January 31, 2020 at 2:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 31, 2020 at 2:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Most people have been falsely accused of something or other, Brian. I once spent seven months in prison for something I didn’t do.  

So, put your best face on and realize that you’re bloody lucky.

Boru

Boru, as much as a pain in the ass you can be sometimes, this is one time I 100% agree with you. I am damned fucking lucky!

Posts like this make me look forward to your contrarian bent. 

And in all seriousness. I cant imagine spending one day in jail for something I did not do. I am sorry you went through that.

Yeah, I really don’t want your sympathy. I was trying to point out that stuff happens to everyone, in the hope that you might be a little less self-absorbed. Clearly, I failed.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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