Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position

[Ranjr]

"Sense of wonder" is appeal to emotion.  "OMG this is so cool!  Therefore God."  I'm okay with that.  I wish religious apologists would simply lead with that.  Skip the pseudo-critical thinking and dime store philosophy.  Just say, I have faith because it makes me feel good.  Then, we can talk about things we do agree on.  There is no evidence, no sound argument, and you don't need that to have faith, which is belief in the uncertain.  Trying to argue rational belief in the unseen and unsound makes one appear to have lived in a cave the last 18 centuries.

[The Architect Of Fate]

I don't recall denying evolution altogether, that's just your strawman urge to make replying easier. It's curious how you so called skeptics would have absolutely no doubt in the existence of a process that took billions of years, and that it worked in every step of the way, while excluding any possibility of intelligent intervention in each and every year in these billions.

Because no evidence of such interference exists and to deny evolution isn't skepticism i's denialism 

And the macroevolution part of your undeniable theory isn't that dense with solid evidence. Certainly not dense enough to make our sense of wonder some completely illusory perception.

It's as solid as any other settled science.And wonder is an opium of the ignorant

[Simon Moon]

And the macroevolution part of your undeniable theory isn't that dense with solid evidence. Certainly not dense enough to make our sense of wonder some completely illusory perception.

Anyone who says this, is either completely ignorant of the: DNA, fossil, comparative anatomy, biogeography, paleontology, embryology, etc, evidence for evolution, or, they ignore it, because their faith in their religion is not strong enough to withstand bits of their 'holy' books not holding up to evidence based science.

[brewer]

And Muslims don't worship Muhammad either.

You just kill when his image is published.

Don't worship my ass.

[ignoramus]

That is a lie. Any educated person knows this. You by this simple paragraph display great ignorance of science. The universe , 99.99% of it, is deadly to us. Even here we were the ones tuned by mutation and natural selection to the more temperate parts of the planet.

The remaider is just religious

Why aren't you dead then? There are physical constants tuned to the 120th zero out there, you know, aren't they enough to get you to think of a more serious reason of us being here.

And mutation/Natural selection require precise chemical and physical laws to work. Did these laws come by chance too, according to you, Mr. educated person?

You know how ridiculous you sound? "I just want to know why meteors always land in craters?" is the extent of your ignorance of how physics and biology works...
Islam has flipped logic and science on its head. It can't work any other way... If you understood that you wouldn't be religious.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Why aren't you dead then? 

Because i'm not 

There are physical constants tuned to the 120th zero out there, you know, aren't they enough to get you to think of a more serious reason of us being here.

Nope 

And mutation/Natural selection require precise chemical and physical laws to work. Did these laws come by chance too, according to you, Mr. educated person?

They happened h same as Natural Selection and everything else nothing points to magic

[Abaddon_ire]

I don't recall denying evolution altogether, that's just your strawman urge to make replying easier. It's curious how you so called skeptics would have absolutely no doubt in the existence of a process that took billions of years, and that it worked in every step of the way, while excluding any possibility of intelligent intervention in each and every year in these billions.

That would be because we acknowledge solid evidence, something islam lacks.

And the macroevolution part of your undeniable theory isn't that dense with solid evidence. Certainly not dense enough to make our sense of wonder some completely illusory perception.

[/quote]Well, that is amusing. You are stealing a christian apologist argument for Islam. But I guess that is the islamic MO. It can discover nothing, and so must rely on stealing the concepts of it's betters. Sorry, but islam had it's golden age long ago. It was the repository of learning once upon a time. And it threw it all away. And that was a tragedy.

[downbeatplumb]

I have a never-ending stream of moral objections to the abrahamic cults.  There's so much horrid shit in all of your religions that I can't co-sign on them regardless of whether or not your gods exist.

Bring it on and pick your most vicious moral objection regarding Islam

Well it does seem to inspire a lot of misogyny and hate. Look at ISIS that is what at least some Islamic thought goes to.
Killing homosexuals, repressing other religions and ethnicities including mass rape in the name of their religion.

Any Islamic country you care to point at takes it to an oppressive place where the ladies are forced to cover up. 

I'm sure it has some nice bits, but that isn't what we're complaining about.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Bring it on and pick your most vicious moral objection regarding Islam

In it's modern form it has ruined the middle east and bought death pain and despotism to other countries

[Pat Mustard]

At the rate of births, Islam will take over the world anyway in 100 years.

That's only if the birth rates from about thirty years ago continue in muslim majority countries continue. They've already slowed down.