A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.

[The Grand Nudger]

That would really be a new perspective for the boards, wouldn't it, lol. Do I get to be the one to tell him that we've heard all of this before..or did that already get mentioned?

[Agnostico]

You said: "I dunno mate, not very convincing."

Ok, that's fine

You said: "Instead of being distinct because we have "divine reality" im fairly sure science says its because we have a conscious"

Well every animal has a conscious, that not distinctive.

You said: "I think you've tried to link our consciousness with God but failed."

Nope, not at all. Like I said all animals has consciousness, but it is only the human being has a divine nature and can manifest the qualities of God to the physical world.

Animals have a conscious now do they. Maybe in your mind but science disagrees. U should really look into that.

Human nature isn't divine at all, it's just human nature.

Can i ask where u got this argument from?

[The Grand Nudger]

From christian values...among other things.

[brewer]

Only to you that you think that I'm failing because you think that I'm on some kind of mission, which I already told you I'm not.

I know you want physical evidence, but here's the thing, that you wil never have, because the divine reality is not anything physical, it can only be manifest to the physical world.

You are on a mission, If not you'd be talking to us about other things besides your religion of ignorance.

It's because divine reality is nothing more than a fantasy you've been taught by others. Insisting that the fantasy is real is delusion. All those attributes that you insist are gods, are simply human attributes. They have been made into "god attributes" by humans for manipulation purposes. You've been duped. 

It's not in the physical world but effects the physical world? What a bunch of horseshit. Next you'll be telling me the "it exists outside of time and space" dodge.

[arewethereyet]

That would really be a new perspective for the boards, wouldn't it, lol.  Do I get to be the one to tell him that we've heard all of this before..or did that already get mentioned?

Has that worked with anyone - ever?

[Mr Greene]

It isn't even argument.  It's simple assertion.

Boru

But it's reasonable assertion because we see it manifesting around us all the time.

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Somebody tell this guy humans ARE animals.

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mamallia
Order: Primate
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species: Sapiens

Even though the human being is an animal like all the other species, we are distinct because we're the only animals that has a divine reality.

You haven't met my cat...

[downbeatplumb]

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The good human qualities are things like:

Integrity
Courageousness
Honesty
Generosity
Loyalty
Perseverance
Respectfulness
Politeness
Responsibility
Kindness
Humility
Lovingness
Compassion
Optimism
Fairness
Reliability
Forgiveness
Conscientiousness
Authenticity
Self-discipline

I've seen all of these displayed by my cat.

[Pat Mustard]

Hi.

So the perspective that I have is that, we will never fully and completely know God.

You got that right.

The only way to know God is to know His names and attributes.

Pity all we've got then is human mythology, wouldn't you say?

Even though the human being is an animal just like all other species, we are distinct because we have a divine reality.

We have a divine reality in the same way that Adolf Hitler was a philosemite.

The human being has the potential to display all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level, that's what makes us have dominion over the animal.

A) we don't have dominion over the animal, we're simply a slightly better adapted species of animal than most others (though we've nothing on the cockroaches for adaptability). And on the "names of god", it's an awful pity we don't put our powerful brains to better use than naming imaginary beings, like, oh I don't know, solving the absolute mess we've made of the enviornment.

The names and attributes of God are basically all of the good qualities that is possible for the human being to have, it's just that society doesn't call them that.

bull fucking shit.

The human being is the most perfect of all creation.

Yeah, and if you believe those lies, there's some nice land in Ukraine I'd love to sell you.

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Can you be more specific? What, precisely, to you is a ‘good’ human quality? And how do you know that it is divine?

No, I’m not asking you to demonstrate that God exists. I’m asking you to demonstrate that such a thing as a divine quality exists.

Boru

The good human qualities are things like:

Integrity
Courageousness
Honesty
Generosity
Loyalty
Perseverance
Respectfulness
Politeness
Responsibility
Kindness
Humility
Lovingness
Compassion
Optimism
Fairness
Reliability
Forgiveness
Conscientiousness
Authenticity
Self-discipline

And they are all traits we share, at least in aggregate*, with other animals.

*Us humans that is. You can find plenty of religious people, even baha'i that display exactly none of those traits.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Hi.

So the perspective that I have is that, we will never know God.

[Duty]

Which god?? Thor? He got a big lump hammer, right? ; )