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The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?

Poll: The Death Penalty
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The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
Napoléon Offline
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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 12, 2011 at 5:17 pm
(June 12, 2011 at 5:16 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:
Napoleon Wrote:I think we should stone adulterers. Nuff said.

And further defend the moronic monogomists? I think not.

Geeeeeezzz, I woulda thought you of all people would be able to detect sarcasm Sae Wink
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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 12, 2011 at 5:22 pm
(June 12, 2011 at 5:17 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Geeeeeezzz, I woulda thought you of all people would be able to detect sarcasm Sae Wink

Not today!!! XD

I iz on a scavanger hunt!

For realz!!!

Mostly with strangers!!! Big Grin

Well... acquaintances I guess.

And one of three friends I retain ^_^ Maybe two now... hmmm... tut Undecided

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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 12, 2011 at 8:48 pm
(June 12, 2011 at 4:09 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote:
(June 12, 2011 at 1:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I would question the reliability of any information obtained in such a manner. If they are already "criminals" why would you assume they would not lie in order to make a better deal for themselves?

Simple, if the information doesn't pan out, stick a needle in their arm.


I don't quite think that you grasp how this works.

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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 12, 2011 at 8:52 pm
(June 12, 2011 at 8:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I don't quite think that you grasp how this works.

What exactly is that?
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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 12, 2011 at 8:56 pm
How do you think this works?


The DA who is trying to make a case goes to a former cellmate of the accused and starts asking if he has any information. Do you think they agree to testify because they are "good citizens?"

They aren't going to be looking to poke holes in the story of their own witness.
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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 12, 2011 at 9:00 pm
(June 12, 2011 at 8:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote: How do you think this works?


The DA who is trying to make a case goes to a former cellmate of the accused and starts asking if he has any information. Do you think they agree to testify because they are "good citizens?"

They aren't going to be looking to poke holes in the story of their own witness.

I was thinking more along the lines of a serial killer that has victims that have yet to be found, and coughs up that information to save his ass.
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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 16, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Against, under any circumstances. Not through the fallibility of the system argument, not through the expedience of preventing more death, certainly not through the fallacy of personal circumstance (although I never wanted to be that guy in the pub with his mates hanging off his arms yelling "It's not worth it!", I'd expect to the held back).
Even under the most optimal circumstances, execution leaves me feeling we are all lessened by the experience.
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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 17, 2011 at 2:19 pm
(June 16, 2011 at 4:50 pm)martin02 Wrote: Against, under any circumstances. Not through the fallibility of the system argument, not through the expedience of preventing more death, certainly not through the fallacy of personal circumstance (although I never wanted to be that guy in the pub with his mates hanging off his arms yelling "It's not worth it!", I'd expect to the held back).
Even under the most optimal circumstances, execution leaves me feeling we are all lessened by the experience.

Lets just leave that serial killer locked away in his cell for the rest of his pointless existence so that he can consume food which could be going to starving children then eh? Wink
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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 17, 2011 at 2:38 pm
(June 17, 2011 at 2:19 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(June 16, 2011 at 4:50 pm)martin02 Wrote: Against, under any circumstances. Not through the fallibility of the system argument, not through the expedience of preventing more death, certainly not through the fallacy of personal circumstance (although I never wanted to be that guy in the pub with his mates hanging off his arms yelling "It's not worth it!", I'd expect to the held back).
Even under the most optimal circumstances, execution leaves me feeling we are all lessened by the experience.

Lets just leave that serial killer locked away in his cell for the rest of his pointless existence so that he can consume food which could be going to starving children then eh? Wink

Napoleon, a life sentence for a serial killer is no picnic, indeed some might argue it to be worse than execution. The food saved over one life sentence would not exactly solve the problem of starvation around the world.
In short, I think you need to offer a better argument for c.p. than this!
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
June 17, 2011 at 2:45 pm
(June 17, 2011 at 2:38 pm)bozo Wrote: Napoleon, a life sentence for a serial killer is no picnic, indeed some might argue it to be worse than execution. The food saved over one life sentence would not exactly solve the problem of starvation around the world.
In short, I think you need to offer a better argument for c.p. than this!

Lol I know that. I was just having a little fun with him.
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There's good arguments for and against.

Personally I don't see any point in keeping a waste of space alive just so we can waste our own time looking after it.
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