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Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?

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Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
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#41
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:15 am
The Quran is the word of god? Fine.

Step 1: Demonstrate there is a god

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RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:27 am (This post was last modified: April 7, 2020 at 10:28 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 7, 2020 at 10:07 am)KuranMumini19 Wrote:
(April 7, 2020 at 10:03 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Why would it matter?

Because you say there is a mistake in the Qur'an. You have a claim like that. You need proof of that claim.

Meh, here's how this goes.  

You challenge a person to point out any of the numerous internal and external errors in magic book.  
A person does so.  
You proceed to argue that those errors aren't errors - from creative interpretation all the way up to asserting that magic book was right and reality is wrong.

-but there's no point...because it doesn't matter, to either of us, whether there are errors in magic book.  

Or does it?  Why would it matter?
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#43
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:27 am
(April 7, 2020 at 10:14 am)brewer Wrote: [Image: circularity.jpg]

I prove that the Quran is the word of Allah.
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#44
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:29 am
So prove it already.

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RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:30 am (This post was last modified: April 7, 2020 at 10:30 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You could certainly try, but assuming that it were - completely freeing you from any responsibility to prove as much.... then the word of god contains internal and external errors.

Is that a problem for you? Why, how?
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RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:37 am


Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
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RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:41 am
(April 7, 2020 at 10:30 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You could certainly try, but assuming that it were - completely freeing you from any responsibility to prove as much.... then the word of god contains internal and external errors.  

Is that a problem for you?  Why, how?

There is no internal or external error in the Qur'an. If you think it's a mistake, let's discuss it.
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RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:41 am
(April 7, 2020 at 9:13 am)KuranMumini19 Wrote: I would like to invite all atheist friends to discuss this forum. If they agree, I'd like to discuss the discussion area. I'll discuss any verse you want.

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(April 7, 2020 at 9:13 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Yes.

This please.

Great 

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Let's discuss this issue. Let's discuss the verses of the Quran.Do you accept my invitation to discuss.

COME debate area

 Uhm... I think you've missed my question/responce.

You posted; "I prove that the Quran is the word of God."

 Now... discussing the thing that you're going to prove is a tad.... circular, isn't it?

Also.. I'm actually not sure where the 'Discussion' section is... Blush

So... I'm happy to talk about any evidence of/for a diety. Talking about second hand information seems rather... redundant, dont' you think?

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RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:51 am
lol. So far op has done everything wrong.

I'm placing my bets on him not making it to 30 posts.
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RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 10:54 am
(April 7, 2020 at 10:41 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:
(April 7, 2020 at 9:13 am)KuranMumini19 Wrote: I would like to invite all atheist friends to discuss this forum. If they agree, I'd like to discuss the discussion area. I'll discuss any verse you want.

The confident will argue with me.
Let's discuss this issue. Let's discuss the verses of the Quran.Do you accept my invitation to discuss.

COME debate area

 Uhm... I think you've missed my question/responce.

You posted; "I prove that the Quran is the word of God."

 Now... discussing the thing that you're going to prove is a tad.... circular, isn't it?

Also.. I'm actually not sure where the 'Discussion' section is... Blush

So... I'm happy to talk about any evidence of/for a diety. Talking about second hand information seems rather... redundant, dont' you think?

Cheers! Great

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