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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 1:19 pm
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(April 21, 2020 at 1:00 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: LOL, an amusing tick of history, if theism had never been invented, we'd probably call ourselves adeists.
No, we are going to call ourselves, "humanists."
It is odd to describe oneself in some type of opposing faction/subset of another description.
We do not have a Democrat political party and an Anti-democrat party. It is possible, but it would be silly to continue calling it the Anti-democrat party after the Democrat party decommissions, because their doctrine was proven to be erroneous. Don't you think? Or do they continue to call themselves, "Anti-democrats," to remember where they came from so as not to make the mistake of returning to the faulty social order???
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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 1:25 pm
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Not all atheists are humanists, and a theist can be a humanist just as well as any atheist. Why would a person call themselves a humanist if they weren't, just because they didn't believe in gods? We've already been over this.
Can you explain some problem with the definition of the word theist, or atheist...or not?
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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 1:27 pm
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Quote:No, we are going to call ourselves, "humanists."
Not all atheists are humanists and religious people can be humanists
Quote:It is odd to describe oneself in some type of opposing faction/subset of another description.
No it's not
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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 1:31 pm
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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 1:32 pm
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Then why keep claiming that there is? You can write some other sentence for fun, genius.
(the above isn't actually news to anyone - everybody in thread knows that we're 30 pages into your worthless trolling bullshit, alot of us knew that the minute we saw a serious tag, lol)
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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 1:41 pm
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"Change was inevitable"
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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 1:45 pm
No more or less than any other post in thread, lol.
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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 2:15 pm
At work.
I must admit to being puzzled by the (Possible) conflation of 'Humanist' and'Atheist'.
I'm pretty sure people can and do have a myriad of ideas/phylosophys about the world.
I conversation I was labeled a 'Pragmatist' and, upon reflection and introspection, I woukd actually agree with such labeling.
While the OP has interesting veiws, I am finding every one elses replies and such quite educational.
Cheers.
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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 2:27 pm
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(April 21, 2020 at 1:32 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Then why keep claiming that there is? You can write some other sentence for fun, genius.
(the above isn't actually news to anyone - everybody in thread knows that we're 30 pages into your worthless trolling bullshit, alot of us knew that the minute we saw a serious tag, lol)
Well, what happened to your highly tuned truth detector critical thinking skills signalling you to not feed the troll??? Why did you allow yourself to waste time responding to my posts - you knew they were not going to go anywhere, right? You weren't that sure??? Something about my posts caused you to react differently than to other posts. What is that??? Oh yeah, I forgot, I'm being "played."
Concern about the definition of atheism, because if it changes to a doctrine that means that atheism will "collapse," or something???
Why isn't it possible that the definition of theism and atheism are not as clear and simple as what the ancient Greeks and medeval Christian Church copied and campaigned as the definitions, when we know that they were faulty in their guarding religious doctrine even when doing things that are supposed to be "secular." And then there were and are the Christian zealots who were the editors of dictionaries who are not inclined to change the definition of a word that has to do with the guarding of the religious doctrine - American Atheist points this out. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resour...t-atheism/
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RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 2:34 pm
Quote:Well, what happened to your highly tuned truth detector critical thinking skills signalling you to not feed the troll???
Were feeding the troll .Trolls bane lol
Quote:Why did you allow yourself to waste tie responding to my posts - you knew they were not going to go anywhere, right? You weren't that sure??? Something about my posts caused you to react differently than to other posts. What is that???
Making fun of trolls is hardly a waste
Quote:Concern about the definition of atheism, because if it changes to a doctrine that means that atheism will "collapse," or something???
Why isn't it possible that the definition of theism and atheism are not as clear and simple as what the ancient Greeks and medeval Christian Church copied and campaigned as the definitions, when we know that they were faulty in their guarding religious doctrine even when doing things that are supposed to be "secular." And then there were and are the Christian zealots who were the editors of dictionaries who are not inclined to change the definition of a word that has to do with the guarding of the religious doctrine - American Atheist points this out. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resour...t-atheism/
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This is dumb and nonsensical
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