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God is a Mass Murderer
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
(May 11, 2020 at 3:51 am)WinterHold Wrote: you are a "debater"; a bot, electronic fly. You just keep repeating yourself over and over

I've been puzzled by the motivations of some people here. Not being a mind-reader, I really don't know why they do some things.

If the goal is to change minds, very little of what goes on here seems well thought out.

If the goal is to get pleasure from poking other people in the eye, it makes more sense.
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
The idea that the contents of a forum post are going to change minds does makes evangelical outreach absurd, sure.
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
SUNGULA Wrote:These countries are no Socialist .They aren't communist either .They were state capitalist

Fact - USSR - Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics

SUNGULA Wrote:Neither of these counties are socialist .China is state capitalist now and even during Mao's time it wasn't communist it was state capitalist , And Venezuela isn't socialist ethier it's also state capitalist

Wrong

SUNGULA Wrote:My criteria is fine your definition of what a socialist country is at fualt
None because no socialist country exists at all. The ones called socialist countries aren't 

No

SUNGULA Wrote:No it's not . Communism is worker ownership of the means of production and it's not utopian as Marx made it clear struggle is needed

That's not utopian and nowhere does it say everyone gets the same so no your still wrong

Incorrect

SUNGULA Wrote:Yes i was that was my point they didn't live up to the ideal 

Nor did i say you said that . Of course Marx believed in his own system.

Actually no i pointed out your errors

False

SUNGULA Wrote:Actually their was .

Fascist  Italy had race laws and treated the non white  people in it's North African holdings  as second class citizens .It also maintained laws against Sicilians And Italy engaged in ethnic cleansing during the war . And Spain had Anti Semitic legislation made as early as 1938 ,

Fascist Spain treated  racial minorities in Spain as second class citizens and treated the non white people of it's moroccan holdings as second class citizens . Not to mention Franco fully accepted he idea of international Jewry the same as Hitler and despite what he would later claim he help the nazi's catch Jews and send them to occupied france .Franco also rolled back protections for Jews

Fascist   Portugal treated  racial minorities in  Portugal   as second class citizens and many of it's colonial laws were racist

Nope

SUNGULA Wrote:1. I didn't say there wasn't variety

2.No country really even tried

3. Stalin had Trotsky killed not over ideology  but because Stalin feared Trotsky influence

4. Lastly i never said there was no disagreement

erroneous

SUNGULA Wrote:Nope i simply respond to what you say and you deem any criticism antagonism

Nope i have not contradicted myself at any time . You keep repeating this silly idea .

Nope i don' hate you i just think your constantly wrong and seem weird delusion i just contradict you for no reason

Na

Socialism - any economic or political system based on government ownership and control of important businesses and methods of production

Communism - an economic system based on public ownership of property and control of the methods of production, and in which no person profits from the work of 
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Quote:Fact - USSR - Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics
A country  something doesn't make it that thing .The USSR may have called itself socialist but in reality i was state capitalist 

SUNGULA Wrote:Neither of these counties are socialist .China is state capitalist now and even during Mao's time it wasn't communist it was state capitalist , And Venezuela isn't socialist ethier it's also state capitalist
Right

SUNGULA Wrote:My criteria is fine your definition of what a socialist country is at fualt
None because no socialist country exists at all. The ones called socialist countries aren't 
Yes

SUNGULA Wrote:No it's not . Communism is worker ownership of the means of production and it's not utopian as Marx made it clear struggle is needed

That's not utopian and nowhere does it say everyone gets the same so no your still wrong
Correct 

SUNGULA Wrote:Yes i was that was my point they didn't live up to the ideal 

Nor did i say you said that . Of course Marx believed in his own system.

Actually no i pointed out your errors
True 

SUNGULA Wrote:Actually their was .

Fascist  Italy had race laws and treated the non white  people in it's North African holdings  as second class citizens .It also maintained laws against Sicilians And Italy engaged in ethnic cleansing during the war . And Spain had Anti Semitic legislation made as early as 1938 ,

Fascist Spain treated  racial minorities in Spain as second class citizens and treated the non white people of it's moroccan holdings as second class citizens . Not to mention Franco fully accepted he idea of international Jewry the same as Hitler and despite what he would later claim he help the nazi's catch Jews and send them to occupied france .Franco also rolled back protections for Jews

Fascist   Portugal treated  racial minorities in  Portugal   as second class citizens and many of it's colonial laws were racist
Yup 

SUNGULA Wrote:1. I didn't say there wasn't variety

2.No country really even tried

3. Stalin had Trotsky killed not over ideology  but because Stalin feared Trotsky influence

4. Lastly i never said there was no disagreement
Factual 

SUNGULA Wrote:Nope i simply respond to what you say and you deem any criticism antagonism

Nope i have not contradicted myself at any time . You keep repeating this silly idea .

Nope i don' hate you i just think your constantly wrong and seem weird delusion i just contradict you for no reason

Yup

Quote:Socialism - any economic or political system based on government ownership and control of important businesses and methods of production
Nope i already defined it perfectly this definition is poor 

Quote:Communism - an economic system based on public ownership of property and control of the methods of production, and in which no person profits from the work of 
Replace public with worker owned  and this would be correct
"Change was inevitable"


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(May 11, 2020 at 11:10 am)Agnostico Wrote: Fact - USSR - Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics
Fact - GDR German Democratic Republic


It says so, right there.
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(May 11, 2020 at 11:59 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(May 11, 2020 at 11:10 am)Agnostico Wrote: Fact - USSR - Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics
Fact - GDR German Democratic Republic


It says so, right there.
 The Democratic People's Republic of Korea

Shock of shocks countries lie about their names
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
(May 11, 2020 at 12:10 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
(May 11, 2020 at 11:59 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Fact - GDR German Democratic Republic


It says so, right there.
 The Democratic People's Republic of Korea

Shock of shocks countries lie about their names
FRG Federal Republic of Germany


Yeah, and sometimes they even omit important parts. Shocking! Doh
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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Quote:I've been puzzled by the motivations of some people here. Not being a mind-reader, I really don't know why they do some things.
It's quite simple if you come here and spew bullshit we will hammer you for it 


Quote:If the goal is to change minds, very little of what goes on here seems well thought out.
I'm sorry if pointing out bullshit doesn't suit the tender fees fees of theists 


Quote:If the goal is to get pleasure from poking other people in the eye, it makes more sense.
Nope the pleasure of refuting nonesense .
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
(May 11, 2020 at 12:38 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:
(May 11, 2020 at 12:10 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:  The Democratic People's Republic of Korea

Shock of shocks countries lie about their names
FRG Federal Republic of Germany


Yeah, and sometimes they even omit important parts. Shocking!  Doh

And here, we are referred to as the United States of America...and if there's one thing we aren't any more - it's united.  

Not since the Civil War has there been so much overt division.
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RE: God is a Mass Murderer
(May 11, 2020 at 3:51 am)WinterHold Wrote: you are a "debater"; a bot, electronic fly. You just keep repeating yourself over and over

Atheists must repeat their arguments because theists are extremely slow learners, so atheists have to repeat them same explanations over and over again, like that there's no evidence that Muhammad really flew on a winged horse or that Jesus didn't walk on water or that Snow White didn't really resurrect.

If someone claims 1+1=3 there isn't many different ways to explain them that 1+1=2 which is exactly the case when some theist claims his or her god's fairytales are true.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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