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Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
#71
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
(June 10, 2020 at 7:29 am)brokenreflector Wrote: The statue should stay up as a reminder of where our country came from. Erasing records of our history make it that much easier for us to repeat it.

The government shouldn't deify insurrection. There's no law against such things on private property, put it in a Klu Klux Klan Hall of Fame if they wish.
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#72
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
Every year I send my grandmother a very small statue of Hitler so she doesn't forget she survived the Holocaust. It's not fun for either one of us, but it's literally the only way.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#73
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
(June 10, 2020 at 7:39 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The government shouldn't deify insurrection. There's no law against such things on private property, put it in a Klu Klux Klan Hall of Fame if they wish.

Then the libtards will whine about it being on private property. They'll probably end up burning down the building it is in.

(June 10, 2020 at 8:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Every year I send my grandmother a very small statue of Hitler so she doesn't forget she survived the Holocaust. It's not fun for either one of us, but it's literally the only way.

What a retarded strawman. That strawman has Down's syndrome.
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#74
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
(June 10, 2020 at 7:29 am)brokenreflector Wrote: The statue should stay up as a reminder of where our country came from. Erasing records of our history make it that much easier for us to repeat it.

We all know where your country came from. A statue of Lee is little more that a reminder of how racism has been enshrined and supported by the US since its inception.

A statue of a dishonest, opportunistic, brutally racist slave trader isn’t a ‘record’ of history (that’s what books are for).

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#75
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
(June 10, 2020 at 9:07 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We all know where your country came from. A statue of Lee is little more that a reminder of how racism has been enshrined and supported by the US since its inception.

People aren't born with a knowledge of US history. Most adults do not know anything about US history.

Quote:A statue of a dishonest, opportunistic, brutally racist slave trader isn’t a ‘record’ of history (that’s what books are for).

Sure it is. And I bet the next thing you libtards are going to do is start burning history books that mention slavery. You guys are nuts.
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#76
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
(June 10, 2020 at 8:59 am)brokenreflector Wrote:
(June 10, 2020 at 8:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Every year I send my grandmother a very small statue of Hitler so she doesn't forget she survived the Holocaust. It's not fun for either one of us, but it's literally the only way.

What a retarded strawman. That strawman has Down's syndrome.

You are the actual retard because you don't even know how people learn. So, while you have been learning from plush toys in your special school, normal people learn history from books, lectures, museums, documentaries and not statues.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#77
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
(June 10, 2020 at 9:17 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: normal people learn history from books, lectures, museums, documentaries and not statues.

People never learn or cannot learn history from a statue? That's very interesting. Tell me more. Hehe
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#78
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
(June 10, 2020 at 7:29 am)brokenreflector Wrote: The statue should stay up as a reminder of where our country came from. Erasing records of our history make it that much easier for us to repeat it.

Let's dispel the notion that these statues are ANYTHING but to serve as a memorial to honor traitors who fought against the United States Government in order to preserve the institution of slavery.  Statues built to serve as nothing more than racist symbols co-opted by the Klu Klux Klan and other White Supremacist Groups in order to oppress black Americans.

Tearing down these statues would be making history in and of itself. 

I'm totally sure you thought the statue of Saddam Hussein should stay up in Iraq, to you know... serve as a reminder of history.  Oh wait, no, I bet you celebrated tearing down his statue and will call this 'false equivalence' because this isn't about History, it's about your 'heritage' which is really just 'hate'.  That's what the confederacy is, and it's what it's always been.  To pretend otherwise... well I'd say that makes you one of the 'adults who don't know anything about history'.
The whole tone of Church teaching in regard to woman is, to the last degree, contemptuous and degrading. - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
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#79
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
...always... always, always, always the same constellation of shit.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#80
RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
(June 10, 2020 at 9:27 am)Cecelia Wrote: Let's dispel the notion that these statues are ANYTHING but to serve as a memorial to honor traitors who fought against the United States Government in order to preserve the institution of slavery.

We have no good reason to dispel that notion.

Quote:I'm totally sure you thought the statue of Saddam Hussein should stay up in Iraq, to you know... serve as a reminder of history.

I'd rather they stay up for the same reason I gave earlier.

I'm not an emotional person so statues don't bother me. Maybe that's part of the problem.
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