black people 450 years a slave?!!?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Using other minorities as a prop to bash black people .....lol 

[The Grand Nudger]

The transantlanic slave trade was the single and explicit reason that reps of our government told reps of theocracy that we have no beef them.

[Drich]

The Dutch brought the first African slaves to Jamestown in 1619. Not sure where drich is coming up with 100 years. Native populations were decimated by disease, massacres and slavery. European indentured servants were worked to death but the Masters did not own their children. Multigenerational slavery was peculiar to the African slave trade. The cultural vestiges of slavery still exist. Any one that does not recognize that is a buffoon. I wonder if our Southern friend drich has ever flown a Confederate flag?

idk dumb ass maybe i got it from one of the three links i provided on native american slavery, especially the part where over 5 million natives slaves were possible used in a 300 year period verse the 380,000 black slaves that were brought in over a 100 year period.

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Peculiar to the african slave trade only after the first financed expeditions had exhausted the natives in search of gold that wasn't there.  They were deemed to be soft and unsuitable for work...or those that remained were, necessitating heartier stock from west africa.  

Columbus shipped 560 slaves back to europe.  On a 56 foot boat.  They weren't intended for labor.

and they weren't 'African Americans' either.

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drick people every second a blistering reminder of the dangers of inbreeding?!!?

i'm 1/2 Korean dummy, and the other 1/2 is white. you understand this would be considered cross breeding, and your Prohibition against people of different races cross breeding make you a mf-ing racist.

[The Grand Nudger]

Their replacements were. This was also the case with white indentured servants. The natives were hard to work and whites cost more. Those are the economics of slavery and genocide, respectively, that made it a good business decision to capture black people and kill red people. The one is not a defense of the other, they're both examples of the same thing.

Transportation deflates our natural resistance to being enslaved, and removes the burden of oppression from the end user. It's hard to hold someone down on their own turf, it's alot easier when you ship them thousands of miles away from anything they know or recognize, with 12-25% dying en-route. Their culture and heritage destroyed as surely as their lives and familial bonds would be, replaced with the abusers.

That's one of the main reasons that ACS efforts in Liberia failed. The many many millions of the descendants of the initial breeding stock were no more african than you or I.

I'm sure that I'll enjoy whatever complaint you make next, in your capacity as the boards endless fountain of bad takes, and while you stir around the contents of your skull to come up with something suitably ignorant and on brand, the rest of us can take a gander at a great example of how this affects people in Stand Watie. He was a chief, plantation owner, and slaveholder who had been instrumental in getting the natives evicted from georgia, signing treaties that the majority opposed, leading to the trail of tears. He settled in oklahoma and attained the rank of general... in the confederate army. He spent most of his time during the war killing other cherokee people. When they lost, he lead a native delegation to sue for peace and the recognition of the tribes, but was ignored and abandoned by both sides of the now unified government which realized that it was more politically expedient to play tribes against each other. It was something that the union and confederacy could agree to with real enthusiam, and so, after the civil war, they turned their combined forces west of the mississippi.

That's what happens to The Good Ones who suffer through their initiation with honor and stoicism, and it's why you should keep the natives out of your filthy mouth.

[Drich]

380,000 black people in the history of the united states were affected over a period of 100 years. That's it you stupid douche that's all. More Jews died in just railway cars being transported from ghettos to the concentrations camps the first YEAR! of the Holocaust! You aren't even aware my argument takes the end oppression away from black people and places it back onto the people who actually endured the mountainous part of slavery in this country and yet they remain honorable and stoic!

There were 4 MILLION blacks enslaved in the U.S. on the eve of Civil War alone, Drich.

when the slaves were imported they weren't castrated.
slave breeding was a thing, which kept the need for imports down.

Understand that that doesn't even account for enslaved blacks who died in the 250 years or so prior.

for goodness sake read the links if you wont take my word. there were very few black slaves before 1760

To put it simply, the number of Africans originally brought during the TST is not the same as the total number of blacks affected by slavery because....

citation?

Slaves had offspring. And slave owners systematically forced slaves to reproduce in order to increase their returns; often seeing to the job themselves and encouraging those in their employ to do so as well--Which incidentally, is why black Americans today are running around here with a goddamn average of 20% European ancestry.

which kinda makes it stupid to hate where they come from doesn't it? (speaking as a bi racial person myself)

You might also note that slavery did not end with the Civil War; it was simply re-branded.

when i argue that, i get hate mail for weeks.
it got re branded and the color of skin lighten, as the African based slaves who did not want to return to Africa/Liberia nor be sent to central south america were adopted into white house holds the white immigrants were forced out west and the Asian immigrants build the roads and rail roads.

[arewethereyet]

Just gonna hang out and wait for Drich to be referred to as 'that Korean man'.  

Before anyone gets up in arms...I was referred to as 'this white woman' and no one batted an eye.

[The Grand Nudger]

Well, at least in your case it's accurate, I guess. He's made it very clear that he picked a side, and it wasn't the korean one.

He's no one, from nowhere. You couldn't even count coup on that non-person. Livestock doesn't get notches.

[downbeatplumb]

It is important to remember that slavery is still a feature in America NOW.
They simply moved it to the penal system.
Ever wonder why so many black people are in prison serving long sentences for minor offences?
Wonder no more.
Its so they can be legally enslaved.

Penal labor in the United States is explicitly allowed by the 13th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."[1] Unconvicted detainees awaiting trial cannot be forced to participate in labor programs in prison as this would violate the Thirteenth Amendment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labo...ted_States

[Drich]

Using other minorities as a prop to bash black people .....lol 

no.. i asked if blacks were not slaves as long as they claim, nor experience the level of oppression but in fact the native Americans were the oppressed blm claims to be, why aren't the natives burning down cities?

my larger point we are all being played. black people being told they are under tremendous oppression even today, and it is the descendant of white america's fault.

[The Grand Nudger]

The natives did try to burn down cities. They managed to kill quite a few people before they were subjugated.

You, Drich, just you, are being played. You're being told that the other guys blame you for what your ancestors did in the past, but blm is not a movement about what happened in the past. It's a going concern in the present day. You, today, are carrying water for white supremacy...by using one minority as a prop to bash another. Exactly what we did to the natives, as it so happens.