(June 10, 2020 at 10:04 pm)Eleven Wrote: That for more than four-hundred and fifty years white people have been a problem. Now that is the number upon which focusing is worth.

How long have the Qin been a problem in Asia?

(June 10, 2020 at 5:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Drich

(June 10, 2020 at 2:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: If you’re asking why Native Americans don’t riot like Black people do, then that’s been asked and answered. In any other respect, I don’t think they do.

oh, ok then can you provide a list of cities that have been burned? perhaps a list of targets or cvs. maybe a list of privately own businesses..

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(June 10, 2020 at 2:52 pm)no one Wrote: Apparently, drick's avatar is more intelligent than the drickster itself.

Quote:how so?

I mean did you know native Americans were slaves to america 3 times longer and in 10 times the quantity? that rather than let them Go the Us moved to exterminate the whole race?

What’s your point? That the bad treatment of Native Americans somehow makes the treatment of African slaves excusable?

And your research continues to suck.

https://www.brown.edu/news/2017-02-15/enslavement

Quote:Native American slavery “is a piece of the history of slavery that has been glossed over,” Fisher said. “Between 1492 and 1880, between 2 and 5.5 million Native Americans were enslaved in the Americas in addition to 12.5 million African slaves.”

Since when is 5.5 million ‘10 times’ 12.5 million?


Boru

what the monopoly lady video. my op is in response to that. i have a link in the op. she says it is ok for black to loot and riot because they have been playing a 450 year game of monopoly with whites and every time they make progress the white burn loot and destroy their opportunities.

She is basicly excusing looting and riots because of 450 years of slavery.

The op shows that slavery in america primarily consisted of native Americans for over 350 years that black slaves were not even used in north america till the 1750s. as native american held that role. estimates show between 2.5 and 5 million slaves were native american in that 350 year time period. so monoploy lady's numbers are off. not only that only 380,000 african slaves were sent to north america in that 100 year period. where 10 to 12 million more were sent to the Caribbean, central, and south america.

So for all the justification of riots and looting they numbers dwindle down to less than 1 out of 10 slaves in north america were black, and yet this lady justifies the riots and looting.. when in fact the real slaves the real ancestors of North american slaves are not using their history as an excuse to loot.

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(June 10, 2020 at 5:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: He's asking for businesses Native Americans have burned during riots, and yet when I point out that the white man has spent something in the area of THREE CENTURIES at war (on and off, but still) and ended up being pretty conclusively defeated, their numbers dwindled, and many tribes completely wiped off the face of the earth, and yet somehow that doesn't explain why they don't riot like Black people are doing now.

no you miss the point read my last post

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(June 10, 2020 at 9:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 8:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Your complaints about Native reservations are somewhat out of date. While it was certainly true that reservations were once a form of forced segregation (particularly during periods of forced removal), that is no longer the case. No native is forced to live on a reservation. In fact, the majority of them do not.

Why do you hate the word ‘reservation’? It means land that is ‘reserved’ for natives, and was usually granted by treaty in consultation with the natives themselves (the fairness and honouring of those treaties is another issue entirely).

Boru

But if Drich is going to stupidly ask why Natives today are not rioting or looting it is a complete non sequitur.

read the op dummy

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(June 10, 2020 at 10:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Sandra Bland died in police custody because an asshole officer decided to arrest her over a mere traffic violation. 

But being white has it's perks.

yes this is what a good cop looks like. what makes you think he would treat a black person poorly? what in turn makes you think a asshole cop with a chip would treat a black person poorly and a white like this? Good cops treat everyone good ass holes treat people like crap. do buy into the lie.

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(June 11, 2020 at 12:04 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Most will date slavery in north america to contact in the west indies, which is also where a good few of the native slaves that get figured in come from.  

The problem isn't even white people. The problem is that for all of that time there's been a perverse incentive to the exploitation of our fellow man.  It's not coincidental that the history of slavery in north america is the history of sugar, cotton, and early multinational corporations.  You're stuck in the same stupid trap, Drich.  Get a clue and stop carrying water for the people who would put you under it.

then help me get one what is the water and who would put me under it?

If I'm completely honest, I don't think that you can be helped, at least not by anyone but yourself.  The tightly wound knot of your faith, politics, and personality has been groomed to support this status quo to a sickening extent - and it's not even remotely subtle.  You were made this way by a system that will never see you as anything other than a useful subhuman token for it's own legitimacy.

What do you make of your faith if it wasn't actually god that legitimized slavery in magic book, but common human slavers?  

What do you make of your politics if Trump and the GOP have reduced themselves to fronts for white nationalism while painting any opposition to the same as enemies of the state?

What do you make of yourself for not only failing to see this, but going the extra mile to normalize and perpetuate the longest running crime against humanity?  

You'll have to find a way to pull at these threads without other deeply valued things unraveling.  That's exactly the point of having groomed you this way.

I see after 4 pages of dialog one of you trained monkeys Finally got what i was saying. good or you! so lets tear it apart.

(June 11, 2020 at 2:13 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If I'm completely honest, I don't think that you can be helped,

That is a proof of God. if you follow God long enough he will lead you to a place where you can't be helped by others. So that when help does come... You know god was the one who helped you.

Quote: at least not by anyone but yourself.  The tightly wound knot of your faith,

at this point faith fades into memory and simple strong belief.

Quote:politics, and personality has been groomed to support this status quo to a sickening extent - and it's not even remotely subtle.

if i am the status quoe then why isn't Clinton in office? isn't that the candidate of the non deplorable/educated american? you know the status quo..

Quote:  You were made this way by a system

of thinking for myself. taking what people say just like i do here test and research it and identify the lies. like for instance in the OP the monoploy woman said black people were slaves to white for 450 years! Bullshit! why import colored men for years worth of cash profit when you can barter for a local one who works the same? the idea white have been oppressing blacks for 450 years is my shepole brother is the status quoe. when have you ever heard any one challenge that figure? that douche is what thinking for yourself looks like. not just taking some rant as gospel because she has triggered your white guilt.

Quote:What do you make of your faith if it wasn't actually god that legitimized slavery in magic book, but common human slavers?

awe... someone is stuck with a medieval understand of the bible and doesn't know how to reconcile a command like love your neighbor as your self with the idea of slavery... here's a hint smart guy.. if you wanted to be a slave or treated as one, then you would be a slave not own one. kinda hard to follow the 2nd rule of Christianity if you own someone and you would not want to be owned.

Quote:What do you make of your politics if Trump and the GOP have reduced themselves to fronts for white nationalism while painting any opposition to the same as enemies of the state?

why would you need an answer to that? there is no need for what if... the answers have been already given. however what will happen to you went the DIMs admit to pushing the USA into a globalist society, by bankrupting this nation with impossible to fund give aways, and the repeal of our bill of rights? they have all but amittedthis, and you people are either too foolish to hear them or dont care. so long as no one can call you racists.

Quote:What do you make of yourself for not only failing to see this, but going the extra mile to normalize and perpetuate the longest running crime against humanity?  

but i just showed you sport it's not the longest running crime. 380,000 black people in the history of the united states were affected over a period of 100 years. That's it you stupid douche that's all. More Jews died in just railway cars being transported from ghettos to the concentrations camps the first YEAR! of the Holocaust! You aren't even aware my argument takes the end oppression away from black people and places it back onto the people who actually endured the mountainous part of slavery in this country and yet they remain honorable and stoic!

Quote:You'll have to find a way to pull at these threads without other deeply valued things unraveling.  That's exactly the point of having groomed you this way.

done. your turn take that super microscope you have and turn it onto yourself or is that against the dunning Kruger way?

Like I said, you can't be helped. You'll have to help yourself. It's a bit like find god, maybe you should try asking him about this stuff?

Clinton was a right leaning corporatist who won by stealing the right wings script, his famous process of "triangularization". That's driven conservatives nuts ever since. Sound like someone you know?

It's been longer than 400 years, and the reverse has also been true. The ummah was founded by slavery, for example. It's only been that long in N. America because that's when colonial powers got here. TBT, the natives practiced their own home grown slavery before then.

Whatever the dims do isn't a justification or an excuse for what you do, or what the GOP has become. TQ always fails because it accepts responsibility for the act, satisfying itself with the mindless retort of the other man. Fine, the other man is an asshole, so what. Maybe you should both stop being assholes?

You're calling me a douche for pointing out that slavery has existed for longer than this country. Think about that. I have no idea who you think it is that remains honorable and stoic, teh joos™, I guess...but it immediately demonstrates that you have a negative valuation of an entire race. Black people aren't honorable, they're the opposite of stoic. They should be more like teh joos™. More like George Soros..I suppose?

Ask yourself why, if you reject white supremacy, you've been made to talk like a white supremacist?

The Dutch brought the first African slaves to Jamestown in 1619. Not sure where drich is coming up with 100 years. Native populations were decimated by disease, massacres and slavery. European indentured servants were worked to death but the Masters did not own their children. Multigenerational slavery was peculiar to the African slave trade. The cultural vestiges of slavery still exist. Any one that does not recognize that is a buffoon. I wonder if our Southern friend drich has ever flown a Confederate flag?

Peculiar to the african slave trade only after the first financed expeditions had exhausted the natives in search of gold that wasn't there. They were deemed to be soft and unsuitable for work...or those that remained were, necessitating heartier stock from west africa.

Columbus shipped 560 slaves back to europe. On a 56 foot boat. They weren't intended for labor.

(June 11, 2020 at 7:13 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Like I said, you can't be helped.  You'll have to help yourself.  It's a bit like find god, maybe you should try asking him about this stuff?

Clinton was a right leaning corporatist who won by stealing the right wings script, his famous process of "triangularization".  That's driven conservatives nuts ever since.  Sound like someone you know?

It's been longer than 400 years, and the reverse has also been true.  The ummah was founded by slavery, for example.  It's only been that long in N. America because that's when colonial powers got here.  TBT, the natives practiced their own home grown slavery before then.  

Whatever the dims do isn't a justification or an excuse for what you do, or what the GOP has become.  TQ always fails because it accepts responsibility for the act, satisfying itself with the mindless retort of the other man.  Fine, the other man is an asshole, so what.  Maybe you should both stop being assholes?

You're calling me a douche for pointing out that slavery has existed for longer than this country.  Think about that.  I have no idea who you think it is that remains honorable and stoic, teh joos™, I guess...but it immediately demonstrates that you have a negative valuation of an entire race.  Black people aren't honorable, they're the opposite of stoic.  They should be more like teh joos™.  More like George Soros..I suppose?

Ask yourself why, if you reject white supremacy, you've been made to talk like a white supremacist?

Except jews have rioted

drick people every second a blistering reminder of the dangers of inbreeding?!!?

(June 11, 2020 at 6:01 pm)Drich Wrote: 380,000 black people in the history of the united states were affected over a period of 100 years. That's it you stupid douche that's all. More Jews died in just railway cars being transported from ghettos to the concentrations camps the first YEAR! of the Holocaust! You aren't even aware my argument takes the end oppression away from black people and places it back onto the people who actually endured the mountainous part of slavery in this country and yet they remain honorable and stoic!

There were 4 MILLION blacks enslaved in the U.S. on the eve of Civil War alone, Drich.


Understand that that doesn't even account for enslaved blacks who died in the 250 years or so prior. To put it simply, the number of Africans originally brought during the TST is not the same as the total number of blacks affected by slavery because....

Slaves had offspring. And slave owners systematically forced slaves to reproduce in order to increase their returns; often seeing to the job themselves and encouraging those in their employ to do so as well--Which incidentally, is why black Americans today are running around here with a goddamn average of 20% European ancestry.


You might also note that slavery did not end with the Civil War; it was simply re-branded.