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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 5:30 pm
(June 20, 2020 at 5:16 pm)Aegon Wrote: Because they're tone deaf ultra wealthy people trying to relate to people living paycheck to paycheck. It was condescending and stupid.
And that wouldn't be half as bad if not for the fact that many of them sound literally tone deaf. Even the professional singers.
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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 5:40 pm
OK, thanks for that.
I think I'd rather hear this:
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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 6:48 pm
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(June 20, 2020 at 7:35 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think it’s because most of the people in that video are singing off key and out of tune.
Boru No seriously Ben Shapiro once did a whole rant going lyric by lyric bashing the original song . Claiming it was "unrealistic "
(June 20, 2020 at 10:53 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Here’s the original celebrity version alongside a musical transcription. This should give you a clue:
It’s a very simple song, and most of these celebrities are fucking it up. No unity of tempo, the key changes with damn near every new voice, some of them can barely keep to the 12-tone scale (and bizarrely, Professional singer Norah Jones is one of the biggest offenders in this regard.) Maybe if they had someone make a backing track, it might have created enough discipline to help keep the song fairly decent.
There’s also the standard problems people have been seeing since people noticed it was a multi-millionaire who talked about imagining no possessions, but, frankly, listening to Ben Shapiro play the devil’s advocate and failing miserably really helps put Lennon’s original message into perspective.
Considering in imagination no one would need possessions .There contradictory millionaire imagining ideal world were there is none .
That's mindset that says you can't criticize capitalism unless you live cave in the woods somewhere .
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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 6:56 pm
(June 20, 2020 at 7:35 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think it’s because most of the people in that video are singing off key and out of tune.
Boru
I could sing you some ABBA, just name your poison, "Dancing Queen", "Name Of The Game", "The Winner Takes It All"?
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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 7:03 pm
(June 20, 2020 at 6:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 7:35 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think it’s because most of the people in that video are singing off key and out of tune.
Boru
I could sing you some ABBA, just name your poison, "Dancing Queen", "Name Of The Game", "The Winner Takes It All"?
And yes, I have a singing voice as charming as walking on broken glass barefoot.
Doesn’t matter - crap music is crap music, no matter who sings it.
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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 7:06 pm
(June 20, 2020 at 6:48 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 7:35 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think it’s because most of the people in that video are singing off key and out of tune.
Boru No seriously Ben Shapiro once did a whole rant going lyric by lyric bashing the original song . Claiming it was "unrealistic "
(June 20, 2020 at 10:53 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Here’s the original celebrity version alongside a musical transcription. This should give you a clue:
It’s a very simple song, and most of these celebrities are fucking it up. No unity of tempo, the key changes with damn near every new voice, some of them can barely keep to the 12-tone scale (and bizarrely, Professional singer Norah Jones is one of the biggest offenders in this regard.) Maybe if they had someone make a backing track, it might have created enough discipline to help keep the song fairly decent.
There’s also the standard problems people have been seeing since people noticed it was a multi-millionaire who talked about imagining no possessions, but, frankly, listening to Ben Shapiro play the devil’s advocate and failing miserably really helps put Lennon’s original message into perspective.
Considering in imagination no one would need possessions .There contradictory millionaire imagining ideal world were there is none .
That's mindset that says you can't criticize capitalism unless you live cave in the woods somewhere .
Of course it’s unrealistic. It’s called ‘Imagine’, not ‘Blueprint’.
But it doesn’t really matter - a lot of great music is unrealistic.
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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 7:25 pm
Also, it's worth noting that, of all the thing Lennon asks us to imagine, that there's no heaven, countries, or possessions, the last is the only one he acknowledges is difficult to imagine.
Imagine No Heaven? It's easy if you can.
Imagine No countries? It's not hard to do.
Imagine No possessions? ... I wonder if you can. Lennon wasn't sure about that one.
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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 7:35 pm
(June 20, 2020 at 7:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 6:48 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: No seriously Ben Shapiro once did a whole rant going lyric by lyric bashing the original song . Claiming it was "unrealistic "
Considering in imagination no one would need possessions .There contradictory millionaire imagining ideal world were there is none .
That's mindset that says you can't criticize capitalism unless you live cave in the woods somewhere .
Of course it’s unrealistic. It’s called ‘Imagine’, not ‘Blueprint’.
But it doesn’t really matter - a lot of great music is unrealistic.
Boru That's my point . Ben's being silly
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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 7:47 pm
(June 20, 2020 at 7:35 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 7:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course it’s unrealistic. It’s called ‘Imagine’, not ‘Blueprint’.
But it doesn’t really matter - a lot of great music is unrealistic.
Boru That's my point . Ben's being silly
Puts me in mind of the time McCartney was asked, ‘Do you really think that love is all you need?’ His answer: ‘It’s just a bloody song’.
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RE: Backlash after celebrities sing "Imagine"
June 20, 2020 at 7:47 pm
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Even as he’s responding to a dead man, trashing one of his most popular works ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS ASSASSINATION, and even as he’s in control of everything, even going so far as to imply he’s burning in Hell (something that Shapiro, who is Jewish, should not even believe in), Ben Shapiro still somehow manages to get owned by the singer-songwriter who was killed before he was even born. Hell, the shitty audio mixing makes it even funnier, because it’s almost like this scene from Casablanca, except if Strasser and his men managed to do it to themselves without even noticing, and Rick and company didn’t even have to do anything.
Something like that really helps to restore your faith in this song, even as the world goes totally FUBAR and you start to think the evil plan from Kingsman (with the killer app) might actually be the best thing we can do to help the world.
(June 20, 2020 at 7:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 20, 2020 at 7:35 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: That's my point . Ben's being silly
Puts me in mind of the time McCartney was asked, ‘Do you really think that love is all you need?’ His answer: ‘It’s just a bloody song’.
Boru
Apparently, when John was stressing about the costs of running his music empire, Neil Aspinall quoted “imagine no possessions,” and John said the exact Same bloody thing. And that time, they actually asked the person who wrote the bloody song!
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