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RE: Anti Cop Apologist Memes
June 22, 2020 at 9:58 pm
(June 22, 2020 at 9:44 pm)no one Wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying then. Let's do an imagined scenario
Let's say we have mike. Mikes a cop and he's not a racist and would generally a good guy .However mike belongs a police station that implicitly has a culture of prejudice and militant outlook on the neighborhood generally drilled into Mike a his colleagues. Mike isn't a racist but his training and occupation mean he views the world a certain way and works on the biases and culture of his station as in his mind these are not racist (a blindspot) .Mike isn't racist but nonetheless does nothing when one of his colleagues beats a black man to death the culture ,training and blindspots mike has he looks the other way of sides with his fellow officers .Mike the man is a good person .Mike the cop is not .
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June 23, 2020 at 1:29 am
Nitpick; Shoot/Shot
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RE: Anti Cop Apologist Memes
June 23, 2020 at 10:03 pm
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I see what you are getting at. The human part of Mike is in precarious situation, just as a snitch on the streets might be. The human part of any cop, or anyone for that matter will instinctively act human when the time calls.
As longs as humans are part of the equation, there will be complications and controversy. Humans will do human things. Sometimes on purpose, because they are pieces of shit. And others will make mistakes.
I do not trust cops, but I also do not think they are all out to get me.
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RE: Anti Cop Apologist Memes
June 23, 2020 at 10:30 pm
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If the indoctrination program has been successful, no, the human part of Mike will not instinctively act human. That's the entire point of indoctrination.
That's why anyone can be turned into a killer. These murders by cop are not mistakes. They are a product of the institution which has trained them and the culture that it maintains. They are not accidentally drawing their guns and firing into another human being. It's an extremely intentional act. Consider how much worse our predicament would be if, in addition to systemic racism, we had a problem with cops accidentally shooting their guns into people.
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RE: Anti Cop Apologist Memes
June 24, 2020 at 3:10 pm
(June 23, 2020 at 10:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If the indoctrination program has been successful, no, the human part of Mike will not instinctively act human. That's the entire point of indoctrination.
That's why anyone can be turned into a killer. These murders by cop are not mistakes. They are a product of the institution which has trained them and the culture that it maintains. They are not accidentally drawing their guns and firing into another human being. It's an extremely intentional act. Consider how much worse our predicament would be if, in addition to systemic racism, we had a problem with cops accidentally shooting their guns into people.
The easiest way to make people killers is a uniform and an idea.
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RE: Anti Cop Apologist Memes
June 24, 2020 at 3:17 pm
(June 24, 2020 at 3:10 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (June 23, 2020 at 10:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If the indoctrination program has been successful, no, the human part of Mike will not instinctively act human. That's the entire point of indoctrination.
That's why anyone can be turned into a killer. These murders by cop are not mistakes. They are a product of the institution which has trained them and the culture that it maintains. They are not accidentally drawing their guns and firing into another human being. It's an extremely intentional act. Consider how much worse our predicament would be if, in addition to systemic racism, we had a problem with cops accidentally shooting their guns into people.
The easiest way to make people killers is a uniform and an idea. And a near complete lack of accountability
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RE: Anti Cop Apologist Memes
June 24, 2020 at 3:38 pm
A very important component of a uniformed persons willingness to kill is their assumption that their society is behind them.
If police in this moment do not believe that, it stands to reason that they will be more reserved in their use of force - not because of any conscious decision, but due to a psychological factor working in the background. The more we support them, the more likely they are to kill. The less we support them, the opposite.
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RE: Anti Cop Apologist Memes
June 25, 2020 at 1:12 am
(June 22, 2020 at 9:18 pm)no one Wrote: No, cops are human beings. To say that all of any particular good is no good is quite disturbing.
Now, I have had my fair share of beef with the police, because of the way that I look. I was once arrested for simply walking down the street. So I know first-hand that some of them are dicks personified. But not every cop is a prejudiced twatwaffle.
Do you want to say us what the was the reason of your arrest ?
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RE: Anti Cop Apologist Memes
June 26, 2020 at 12:09 pm
In Indonesia in the 1960s there was an (american backed) genocide of the countries communists.
There was a documentary crew a few years ago that wanted to interview some victims of the atrocities but the they were told it would be too problematic as the people who committed the atrocities were still in charge.
So they came up with the idea of asking the perpetrators to describe what they'd done.
Turns out, because there was absolutely no way they'd ever get in trouble for it they were only too keen to tell their stories.
So these now old men told and sometimes acted out how they killed because they were proud of what they'd done.
Its a disturbing film called the act of killing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQhIRBxbchU
A uniform and an idea.
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