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St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
#51
RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 3:05 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 2:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Is it also illegal to - on your own property - point a firearm at someone who has threatened to kill you and burn your house to the ground?

Boru
Who did that? I know they claim that but I don't know who did that. I do doubt those claims.

They also said that the protestors threatened to kill their dog.

Is there proof of that?  Probably not.

(June 30, 2020 at 3:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 3:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: They won't produce any good evidence that THEIR property was at risk, or that any other property was at risk. So they will be making an unsupported claim of lawful use of force.

"Shoot first" is white privilege. 

We live in a nation where a black female EMT gets shot 9 times in a no knock warrant.

We can't vilify a "Country Club Hero" who sports an assault rifle while wearing beige pants and collared shirt. He was just protecting his whiteness. I mean, can you imagine the entry fees for his club if he doesn't defend his turf?

Just try to use a fact now and then.

She was shot 8 times.

You pass on bogus information more than Trump does.  I know, I know...it's your ADHD and your laziness but it's still incorrect.
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#52
RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 3:15 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 3:05 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Who did that? I know they claim that but I don't know who did that. I do doubt those claims.

They also said that the protestors threatened to kill their dog.

Is there proof of that?  Probably not.

(June 30, 2020 at 3:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote: "Shoot first" is white privilege. 

We live in a nation where a black female EMT gets shot 9 times in a no knock warrant.

We can't vilify a "Country Club Hero" who sports an assault rifle while wearing beige pants and collared shirt. He was just protecting his whiteness. I mean, can you imagine the entry fees for his club if he doesn't defend his turf?

Just try to use a fact now and then.

She was shot 8 times.

You pass on bogus information more than Trump does.  I know, I know...it's your ADHD and your laziness but it's still incorrect.

Yes because 8 times makes her less dead than 9 times.  

I am not asking you to take my word for it, but she is STILL DEAD regardless of my minor error.
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#53
RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 3:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 3:15 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: They also said that the protestors threatened to kill their dog.

Is there proof of that?  Probably not.


Just try to use a fact now and then.

She was shot 8 times.

You pass on bogus information more than Trump does.  I know, I know...it's your ADHD and your laziness but it's still incorrect.

Yes because 8 times makes her less dead than 9 times.  

I am not asking you to take my word for it, but she is STILL DEAD regardless of my minor error.

Just try to give facts for a change.  

Trump also makes excuses for his blunders.  Don't you want to be better than that?

Ya know, Melania's "Be Best" campaign and all that.
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#54
RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 3:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 3:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: They won't produce any good evidence that THEIR property was at risk, or that any other property was at risk. So they will be making an unsupported claim of lawful use of force.

"Shoot first" is white privilege. 

We live in a nation where a black female EMT gets shot 9 times in a no knock warrant.
You do remember who fired first in that case...
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#55
RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 3:25 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 3:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote: "Shoot first" is white privilege. 

We live in a nation where a black female EMT gets shot 9 times in a no knock warrant.
You do remember who fired first in that case...

Oh, oh, I know!!!!
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#56
RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 3:23 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 3:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yes because 8 times makes her less dead than 9 times.  

I am not asking you to take my word for it, but she is STILL DEAD regardless of my minor error.

Just try to give facts for a change.  

Trump also makes excuses for his blunders.  Don't you want to be better than that?

Ya know, Melania's "Be Best" campaign and all that.

Who is pandering to racists? Not me. Who is pandering to dictators, not me.

To quibble about 8 or 9 shots doesn't change her needless death.

I know you don't pander to racists, so please don't focus on minor details. If both of us want less violence and blacks not having to fear interacting with police, then the important thing is to call our system out. 

I have seen multiple reports in the media over the weeks over Breonna Taylor's murder, and some conflict about the shots fired, but all agree it was a no knock warrant and they murdered an innocent woman.
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#57
RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 2:48 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What the homeowners did was stupid. If they were that fearful, they should have stayed inside and locked the doors.


Boru

Exactly right.

The surest way to avoid a confrontation is to not show up.
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#58
RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 3:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 2:57 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Some web searching tells me that people who live on that street have been granted ‘the right of exclusion’ by the city, which means they don’t have to allow anyone to use the street if they don’t want them to.

Boru

So?

Tell me when trespassing deserves a death sentence in this context?

Again, I cannot tell you how many times as a teen and young adult and even today living on a private street I have walked through yards without being shot.

In the context of this situation, this couple wasn't fearing that someone would harm them, they were pissed because sane people were protesting injustice and they were having their white privilege challenged.

This was merely a rich white couple fearing times changing.

You’re aware that no one died in this confrontation, right? You’re aware that no shots were fired, right?

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#59
RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 3:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 3:23 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Just try to give facts for a change.  

Trump also makes excuses for his blunders.  Don't you want to be better than that?

Ya know, Melania's "Be Best" campaign and all that.

Who is pandering to racists? Not me. Who is pandering to dictators, not me.

To quibble about 8 or 9 shots doesn't change her needless death.

I know you don't pander to racists, so please don't focus on minor details. If both of us want less violence and blacks not having to fear interacting with police, then the important thing is to call our system out. 

I have seen multiple reports in the media over the weeks over Breonna Taylor's murder, and some conflict about the shots fired, but all agree it was a no knock warrant and they murdered an innocent woman.
Does your hair rustle when points made fly past your head?

You fuck up facts nearly as often as Trump.  If you are going to argue something, at least give the facts and not whatever is in your feeble memory bank.

And...answer Zilla's question.  If you can.
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RE: St. Louis attorneys draw down on protestors passing by.
(June 30, 2020 at 3:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 30, 2020 at 3:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So?

Tell me when trespassing deserves a death sentence in this context?

Again, I cannot tell you how many times as a teen and young adult and even today living on a private street I have walked through yards without being shot.

In the context of this situation, this couple wasn't fearing that someone would harm them, they were pissed because sane people were protesting injustice and they were having their white privilege challenged.

This was merely a rich white couple fearing times changing.

You’re aware that no one died in this confrontation, right? You’re aware that no shots were fired, right?

Boru

Nice selection bias and sample rate error.

Doesn't matter. "No harm no foul" isn't an argument. Because their thought process and mentality DOES lead to long term discrimination and harm.

FYI merely aiming a firearm at anyone is a crime, you don't have to fire it. 

If nobody got hurt, by your logic aiming a firearm at a police officer is also not a crime. Pretty sure you don't buy that.
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