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That Gay Thread
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RE: That Gay Thread
Homophobia, like racism, is ultimately tribalistic. It's all about hating the unknown. It's ultimately based on a fear of the unknown. People fear and hate what they don't understand. Including the parts of themselves that they don't understand. Pretty much all bigotry are ultimately, sort of, a form of xenophobia.

That is ... when it's not just being motivated by an ideology.
"Zen … does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." - Alan Watts
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(July 17, 2020 at 2:08 pm)ModusPonens1 Wrote: Homophobia, like racism, is ultimately tribalistic. It's all about hating the unknown. It's ultimately based on a fear of the unknown. People fear and hate what they don't understand.

And the reason why people are having difficulties to understand are religions who are still influential and are keeping people away from knowledge.

Right now in Poland catholic church is spreading disgusting hate towards homosexuals where bishops and archbishops are calling homosexuals "a plague" and claim how they want to introduce "a dictatorship of minorities", and clergy is openly interfering with the presidential elections by fearmongering and telling lies.



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#23
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It's official, glory holes are safe during the pandemic

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#24
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I haven't had it for a long while but I'm too high on life to be as Stan-Marsh-out-of-South-Park's-Dad about it as I normally constantly am.
"Zen … does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." - Alan Watts
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(July 25, 2020 at 10:43 am)Eleven Wrote: It's official, glory holes are safe during the pandemic

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Best bit from the article:

Quote:Helpfully, the Canadian health organisation recommends first and foremost masturbating (yourself) is the safest, but if you bring a partner along you should jerk them off from a safe social distance.


Purely out of intellectual curiosity, I wouldn’t be averse to a demonstration of how men jerk each other off from six feet apart. I’m guessing it would involve either abnormally long arms or an absolute world-beater of a willy. Possibly both.

Or maybe a new use for one of those reach-and-grab things the old folks use.

Boru
Ignorance is never valid grounds for the rejection of established facts.
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(July 16, 2020 at 11:06 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It took them this long to ban the gay panic defense?? A few questions:

-How the filet-o-fuck was that ever a ‘defense’ in the first place?

-Who the hell panics because they’re hit on by a gay person?

-Isn’t this really just a lame, troglodyte way to justify gay bashing (‘He asked me to dance, so I killed him.’)?

Fuxxake. Enjoy your exit from the Stone Age, Colorado.

Boru

Given that, since Christianity took over the Western world, gay people were treated as essentially predatory, it makes some sense. Take this infamous 1961 short, Boys Beware:



For what it's worth, the same year, the director of Boys Beware made a companion piece called Girls Beware, warning girls about predatory boys. Naturally, they didn't say the boys in that short did what they did because they had a disease (as virulent as smallpox) called heterosexuality, even though, frankly, if they were going to write off gay people as inherently predatory because of outliers like Ralph, it only makes sense to do the same to straight people, especially when, odds are, this predatory behaviour is probably more common in straight people (definitely in sheer numbers, possibly in per capita), at least if the MeToo movement is any indication.

If they were working under the assumption that this is what gay people are like,



Then it only makes sense that gay panic would seem a viable defense (Note: as someone who's been thinking a lot about Ken Branagh's Hamlet for my Anglotopia column, I'm pretty familiar with the difference between "seems" and "is.") Of course, when this happens in the real world (something I know from personal experience), the defense should definitely be more "motherfucker tried to rape me" than "motherfucker was gay and I couldn't help but kill him."
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Don't you know that the gays are equipped with the telekinesis?
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(July 25, 2020 at 12:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Purely out of intellectual curiosity, I wouldn’t be averse to a demonstration of how men jerk each other off from six feet apart. I’m guessing it would involve either abnormally long arms or an absolute world-beater of a willy. Possibly both.

Or maybe a new use for one of those reach-and-grab things the old folks use.

Boru

Yeah, those grabbers would have to be extremely awkward to pull off pulling off a guy.
I was born with a gift of laughter and a sense that the world is mad.

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(July 16, 2020 at 10:14 pm)ignoramus Wrote: With all the inequalities and prejudices about, it must be a real pain in the ass to be gay Dunno

Yeah, gay people are sooo oppressed... Let's be real, we're in a system of white supremacy which has nothing to do with sexual orientation, Hell J. Edgar Hoover, the guy responsible for COINTELPRO which targeted blacks was LBGT.




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(July 25, 2020 at 10:28 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:
(July 16, 2020 at 10:14 pm)ignoramus Wrote: With all the inequalities and prejudices about, it must be a real pain in the ass to be gay Dunno

Yeah, gay people are sooo oppressed... Let's be real, we're in a system of white supremacy which has nothing to do with sexual orientation, Hell J. Edgar Hoover, the guy responsible for COINTELPRO which targeted blacks was LBGT.





Or that systems of oppression tend to encompass several different aspects of people's lives, race and sexual orientation being two of them. It's not like oppressive systems have just one thing they hate and everyone outside that single thing has free rein to do whatever they want. Seriously, how the fuck do I have to be person to explain this to you?

Yes, Hoover was (likely) LGBT. He was also closeted all his life and, because of this, it turns out the issue of his sexuality is actually murky enough that at least one biography claims he was probably asexual. And to drive my point home further, despite his possible homosexuality, helped to champion a purge of homosexuals in the government that ran parallel with the Red Scare, and even had Joe McCarthy spearheading it (surprisingly, the Lavender Scare had even more victims than the Red Scare). The other person apart from McCarthy and Hoover to make this happen? Roy Cohn, who was also in the closet all his life, but whose homosexuality is all but certain.
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