That Gay Thread

[Rev. Rye]

#2... That definition is from Websters dictionary 1828, before the definition was changed to conform to an agenda.

Nah it's from before we figured more about how gender works.

And I hate to break it to you, Huggy Bear, but the meaning of words are allowed to change. And not just because of political pressure from people who honestly don't have much political power beyond getting angry on Twitter, if enough people use a word in a specific way, it now has a new meaning. Even if it doesn't make any fucking sense, like the word "literally" meaning its exact opposite.

[Huggy Bear]

You mean as opposed to the murderous group of white supremacists here?

Comparing the KKK to the Taliban is like comparing an Amish boys choir to the Crips

You think the KKK was responsible Tulsa massacre? Hate to breaking it to you but it was just your average white person responsible for killing 3000 people and burning the town to the ground, not to mention being bomb from the air by its own government.

 You're right, there is no equivalency, black people stayed and dealt with it, we didn't run like bitches even though we were vastly outnumbered. The Afgan population outnumbers the Taliban...

If you had been through all the shit these people had been through you would be running too. So get off your high horse asshole and spare us the pity party.

Are you stupid? Freed slaves had it much worse, yet THEY didn't run, what part abot that don't you understand?

[The Architect Of Fate]

You think the KKK was responsible Tulsa massacre? Hate to breaking it to you but it was just your average white person responsible for killing 3000 people and burning the town to the ground, not to mention being bomb from the air by its own government.

Tulsa massacre would have fucking picnic in July compared to some of the truly evil shit the Taliban have done. So not impressed 

Are you stupid? Freed slaves had it much worse, yet THEY didn't run, what part about that don't you understand?

No, they fucking didn't. Not by a fuck longshot. You would either have to be ignorant of the history of Afghanistan or fucking divorced from reality to think that.

[Huggy Bear]

Ok, you truly ARE stupid...

[The Architect Of Fate]

Ok, you truly ARE stupid..

Says the moron claiming freed black slaves suffered more than the people of Afghanistan and thinks the Tulsa massacre is anything compared to the dozens of massacres and atrocities carried out by the Taliban. And fucking thinks standing up to White Nationalists is anything like trying to fight the Taliban 

You Sir are beyond mentally stunted 

[Divinity]

Punching down is one of the funniest forms of comedy. I love seeing comedians punching down. No one is immune from being joked about.

Yeah, we get it. You're an immature bully who'd rather pick on the weak because you can't run with the big dogs.

[Irreligious Atheist]

“Everyone can be joked about.”

Well, I guess if you assert it, it must be true. Debate over. 🤷‍♀️

Apparently, if you are against vulnerable minorities being demonized via comedy. You are against equal rights .....Okay

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Also the Idea that a black man can "punch down" is beyond absurd. Black men were systematically engineered to be at the bottom of the social economic ladder. He'll even the Afgan refugees that just got here were just given 6.3 billion dollars of taxpayers money, yet the freed slaves had to do with nothing but the clothes on thier back.

Yeah because freed black slaves are totally equivalent to Afgan refugees fleeing their country to escape a murderous group of Islamic extremists, And no black people are not at the bottom

Dave didn't demonize trans people. Watch the special before posting things like this.

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Punching down is one of the funniest forms of comedy. I love seeing comedians punching down. No one is immune from being joked about.

Yeah, we get it. You're an immature bully who'd rather pick on the weak because you can't run with the big dogs.

Yes, because we all know cringy late night comedians making jokes about "Orange man bad" over and over five nights a week is the peak of comedy, and the only thing that it's ok to joke about, and far more brilliant than Dave Chappelle's comedy. Comedy is meant to be immature. Since when is comedy supposed to be mature? What kind of nonsense is that? Dave wasn't doing a Ted Talk or a university lecture. He was doing a damn stand-up act. If you don't find the most popular comedians in the world who do similar content to this funny, don't watch them.

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Everyone can be joked about. Trans people don't have to find it funny, but if they want Chappelle's special taken down, they are asking for special treatment, not equal treatment. I'm an egalitarian/ classical feminist (none of this current feminist wave BS) and I believe people should be given equal treatment no matter what their gender is. You are against equality, and that is sad.

Can be. Not should. And, honestly, I'm not sure about removing it altogether, mostly because I fucking hate when shit gets randomly removed from certain streaming services (although Chappelle can almost certainly find another site to stream it, or, like Louis CK did, distribute it digitally on his own site.) But criticising it mercilessly over social media, that's honestly the right thing to do. Enough people talk about it, it develops a toxic reputation and, after the inevitable boom of people watching it out of bile fascination (let's face it, not enough people are cinematic masochists like me), people stop watching it.

Yes, should be, because people find it funny and they are watching it, and Dave is making tens of millions of dollars off of that content. It's good shit. No need to fix what ain't broken and what's working. Everyone here is calling it shit and unfunny, but most people here have not even given it a look see. I appreciate that you don't want it taken down though. Respect.

[Duty]

Comparing the KKK to the Taliban is like comparing an Amish boys choir to the Crips

You think the KKK was responsible Tulsa massacre? Hate to breaking it to you but it was just your average white person (average for 1921 Oklahoma, that is) responsible for killing 3000 people and burning the town to the ground, not to mention being bomb from the air by its own government.

FIFY

ETA: 3000 dead? From wiki: 

The commission gave several estimates ranging from 75 to 300 dead.

[Huggy Bear]

You think the KKK was responsible Tulsa massacre? Hate to breaking it to you but it was just your average white person (average for 1921 Oklahoma, that is) responsible for killing 3000 people and burning the town to the ground, not to mention being bomb from the air by its own government.

FIFY

ETA: 3000 dead? From wiki: 

The commission gave several estimates ranging from 75 to 300 dead.

First of all that commission was from 2001, how are you to determine how many people died 80 years after the fact? What we do know is that the towns population was 10000, they were attacked by an armed mob of 3000, plus were being bomb by planes... do you find the estimate of 75 to 300 dead reasonable? not to mention the town was burned to ash, i'm sure a lot of bodies were also burned in the process.

I wonder what the Nazis estimates for holocaust deaths would be if we had to rely on them to tell it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fact...341812002/

[The Architect Of Fate]

It doesn't matter if Tulsa was 300 or 3000. The Taliban have killed more. Also, Huggy's own source says between 300 to 3000 as in they don't have exact numbers of how many actually died. AP news by contrast says 

The state declared the death toll to be only 36 people, including 12 who were white. But for various reasons, including contemporaneous news reports, witness accounts and looser standards for tracking deaths, most historians who have studied the event estimate it to be between 75 and 300.

https://apnews.com/article/tulsa-massacr...977a9ca4c0



According to the Tulsa  Historical Society and Museum 

They removed them to other parts of the city, and detained them in holding centers. Entering the Greenwood district, people stole, damaged, or destroyed personal property left behind in homes and businesses. People, some of them agents of government, also deliberately burned or otherwise destroyed homes credibly estimated to have numbered 1,256, along with virtually every other structure — including churches, schools, businesses, even a hospital and library — in the Greenwood district. Despite duties to preserve order and to protect property, no government at any level offered adequate resistance, if any at all, to what amounted to the destruction of the Greenwood neighborhood. Although the exact total can never be determined, credible evidence makes it probable that many people, likely numbering between 100-300, were killed during the massacre.

https://www.tulsahistory.org/exhibit/192...-massacre/



According to the Britannica

When the massacre ended on June 1, the official death toll was recorded at 10 whites and 26 African Americans, though many experts now believe at least 300 people were killed. Shortly after the massacre

https://www.britannica.com/event/Tulsa-r...re-of-1921



According to Wikipedia's death breakdown chart

Total dead and displaced unknown:
36 total; 26 black and 10 white dead (1921 records)
150–200 black and 50 white dead (1921 estimate by W.F. White)[2]
39 confirmed, 26 black (1 stillborn) and 13 white dead[3] 75–100 to 150–300 estimated (2001 commission)[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre


ABC reports 

Although the state declared the massacre death toll to be only 36 people, most historians and experts who have studied the event estimate the death toll to be between 75 and 300. Victims were buried in unmarked graves that, to this day, are being sought for proper burial.

https://abcnews.go.com/Travel/wireStory/...e-77894013



According to the anthropology Magazine Sapien

The attackers killed an unknown number as they reduced a vital neighborhood to ashes. The official death toll recorded was 36, but some historians estimate the figure at around 300. No one was held

https://www.sapiens.org/news/tulsa-race-massacre/




According to the  Oklahoma Historical Society

Believed to be the single worst incident of racial violence in American history, the bloody 1921 outbreak in Tulsa has continued to haunt Oklahomans. During the course of eighteen terrible hours on May 31 and June 1, 1921, more than one thousand homes and businesses were destroyed, while credible estimates of deaths range from fifty to three hundred. By the time the violence ended, the city had been placed under martial law, thousands of Tulsans were being held under armed guard, and the state's second-largest African American community had been burned to the ground.

https://www.okhistory.org/publications/e...ntry=TU013