That Gay Thread

[LadyForCamus]

@Huggy Bear your contributions to this discussion speak for themselves. There’s really nothing left to say to you at this point except, thanks (I guess?) for showing us in shocking detail the hopelessly endless string of incoherent, paranoid non-sequiturs that your cognition seems to be comprised of. I kind of feel sorry for you, dude.

[Huggy Bear]

I see no one addressed one of his loonier claims.  That no eugenicists advocated for reducing the birth rates of whites.

Yeah…uuum….they definitely did.  Still do.  Eugenics doesn’t really work if you exempt white goobers.

I don’t have it in me to be charitable with those views…so I’ll just say that it was always about killing off the poors.  Their poverty being taken to be a manifestation of their genetic inferiority.  So I guess there’s my tie in with Rev.

Eugenics is by definition about genetics... Also it was typically the very rich who were plagued with genetic defects.

"little lord fauntleroy school for albino hemophiliacs"

The difference being that you can't point to any EUGENICISTS trying to lower the birth rates of white people, but you CAN with black people.

You still haven't pointed to any.

[no one]

What are you saying? There is no such thing as dark skinned humans attacking other dark skinned humans. Unless, of course, they are just lackeys of the fascist white regime

[Rev. Rye]

I'm just acknowledging the complexity of Sanger's views (that they're not quite the sort of standard white supremacy that you seem convinced they were, although, to be blunt, she did align with groups that wound up having an objectively negative impact on black people, even if she did work with some of the most radical black thinkers of the era, including DeBois.)

And the way you try and undermine my arguments doesn't really work. You use the beliefs of a woman who's been dead for 55 years as proof positive that the organisation she founded is still white supremacist, and you use statements from that same company that are disavowing that same shady past precisely because of the racism that it wound up passively supporting to claim it's holding the same views it's repudiating.

[The Architect Of Fate]

@Huggy Bear your contributions to this discussion speak for themselves. There’s really nothing left to say to you at this point except, thanks (I guess?) for showing us in shocking detail the hopelessly endless string of incoherent, paranoid non-sequiturs that your cognition seems to be comprised of. I kind of feel sorry for you, dude.

Truer words have never been spoken 

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I'm just acknowledging the complexity of Sanger's views (that they're not quite the sort of standard white supremacy that you seem convinced they were, although, to be blunt, she did align with groups that wound up having an objectively negative impact on black people, even if she did work with some of the most radical black thinkers of the era, including DeBois.)

And the way you try and undermine my arguments doesn't really work. You use the beliefs of a woman who's been dead for 55 years as proof positive that the organisation she founded is still white supremacist, and you use statements from that same company that are disavowing that same shady past precisely because of the racism that it wound up passively supporting to claim it's holding the same views it's repudiating.

[The Grand Nudger]

I trust you can read all about it on your own. It was always an amusing bit of bullshit from eugenecists that it was about genetics. If you believed that, and believed the rest of this nonsense you listed, you’d have to believe that black genetics were inferior.

I don’t think I need to consult the magic hate ball on that one.

[LadyForCamus]

Wait…is @Huggy Bear back to arguing for a position he just mocked @Helios for, for suggesting he holds it? You can’t make this shit up, lol.

[Rev. Rye]

I trust you can read all about it on your own. It was always an amusing bit of bullshit from eugenecists that it was about genetics. If you believed that, and believed the rest of this nonsense you listed, you’d have to believe that black genetics were inferior.

I don’t think I need to consult the magic hate ball on that one.

And it might do him some good to look into Anti-Irish hatred in the mid-to-late 19th Century and Early 20th. Here might be a good place to start.

[Huggy Bear]

Wait…is @Huggy Bear back to arguing for a position he just mocked @Helios for, for suggesting he holds it? You can’t make this shit up, lol.

No idea what you're talking about.

[The Grand Nudger]

A seemingly evergreen statement.