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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 1:58 am
Quote:Reply to the op and don't focus on the writer, whore.
STFU
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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 2:20 am
Well, that escalated quickly.
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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 2:23 am
(July 25, 2020 at 3:18 am)WinterHold Wrote: (July 25, 2020 at 3:12 am)Deesse23 Wrote: You tried to use the reconquista of Spain as an apologetic for the conquest of Byzantium and the conversion of the HS, when in fact Spain was an incident of muslim agression, and the muslims converted chruches into mosques as i demonstrated.
You are ignorant as fuck, and most probably dishonest.
lol, this troll is defending the inquisition
Reply to me correcting your falsehoods about the spanish inquisition, and don't focus on the writer, whore.
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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 2:33 am
So I've been reading up a little on my history.
The invasion of the Iberian peninsula happened around 725 CE and the first sieges of Constantinople occurred around the same time.
There was also an Islamic invasion of France at about the same time.
These are instances of Islamic aggression that occurred centuries before the Crusades, so I don't understand any assertions about the eventual conquest of Constantinople being in response to the Crusades.
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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 3:14 am
(July 26, 2020 at 2:33 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: So I've been reading up a little on my history.
The invasion of the Iberian peninsula happened around 725 CE and the first sieges of Constantinople occurred around the same time.
There was also an Islamic invasion of France at about the same time.
These are instances of Islamic aggression that occurred centuries before the Crusades, so I don't understand any assertions about the eventual conquest of Constantinople being in response to the Crusades.
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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 3:50 am
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(July 26, 2020 at 2:33 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: So I've been reading up a little on my history.
The invasion of the Iberian peninsula happened around 725 CE and the first sieges of Constantinople occurred around the same time.
There was also an Islamic invasion of France at about the same time.
These are instances of Islamic aggression that occurred centuries before the Crusades, so I don't understand any assertions about the eventual conquest of Constantinople being in response to the Crusades.
The first clash ever between Muslims and the Byzantines occurred in the battle of Mu'tah in 629 CE, after a Byzantine vessel executed the Muslim emissary sent to the ruler of Bosra:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_...Background
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The Byzantines were reoccupying territory following the peace accord between Emperor Heraclius and the Sasanid general Shahrbaraz in July 629.[14] The Byzantine sakellarios Theodore,[15] was placed in command of the army, and while in the area of Balqa, Arab tribes were also employed.[14]
Meanwhile, Muhammad had sent his emissary to the ruler of Bosra.[16] While on his way to Bosra, he was executed in the village of Mu'tah by the orders of a Ghassanid official.[16]
The messages Mohammed -peace be upon him- sent to all the emperors of the world didn't ever threaten anyone but rather told the heads of state about Islam:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad%2...s_of_state
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Killing the emissary was nothing but a war declaration; a war that both Persia and Constantinople lost.
About the invasion of France; I never defended such act, I call it terrorism and just like the Romans and the Persians, the Ummayads got defeated and lost all the lands they stole by the sword from others. Just to be clear; the tyranny of the Ummayads hurt Muslims in Arabia before it hurts foreign people.
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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 4:10 am
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Quote:Killing the emissary was nothing but a war declaration;
No it wasn't . Killing one man does not justify conquering a city
Quote:a war that both Persia and Constantinople lost.
Does not justify conquering a city
Quote:About the invasion of France; I never defended such act,
It was still muslim aggression
Quote: I call it terrorism and just like the Romans and the Persians, the Ummayads got defeated and lost all the lands they stole by the sword from others
Does not justify conquering a city
Quote:. Just to be clear; the tyranny of the Ummayads hurt Muslims in Arabia before it hurts foreign people.
Irrelevant
Quote:The first clash ever between Muslims and the Byzantines occurred in the battle of Mu'tah in 629 CE, after a Byzantine vessel executed the Muslim emissary sent to the ruler of Bosra:
Does not justify conquering a city
Quote:The messages Mohammed -peace be upon him- sent to all the emperors of the world didn't ever threaten anyone but rather told the heads of state about Islam:
Yup and they had ever right to tell your pedo prophet to go fuck himself
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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 6:09 am
(July 25, 2020 at 4:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (July 25, 2020 at 2:58 am)WinterHold Wrote: Usually, non-Muslims -or Kuffar (Arabic for Infedel) as the Quran calls them:-
Nothing like starting off with a clumsy attempt at an insult. It's infidels. Get it right.
Quote:When they forcefully convert others they call it "conquest"; but when Muslims do it they call it "conversion by the sword".
It's conversion by the sword no matter who does it or when. The difference is that some people decided that was bad a few hundred years ago while others still have apostasy laws. But way to use the injustices of the Spanish more than 500 years ago to excuse your injustices today.
Everyone expected the spanish inquisition.
They made appointments.
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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 5:09 pm
(July 26, 2020 at 4:10 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
Quote:The messages Mohammed -peace be upon him- sent to all the emperors of the world didn't ever threaten anyone but rather told the heads of state about Islam:
Yup and they had ever right to tell your pedo prophet to go fuck himself
Remind me again: which sewer did you crawl out from?
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RE: [Remember]: how the Spanish infedels treated Muslims
July 26, 2020 at 5:19 pm
(July 26, 2020 at 5:09 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (July 26, 2020 at 4:10 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
Yup and they had ever right to tell your pedo prophet to go fuck himself
Remind me again: which sewer did you crawl out from?
I have a solution for internet pests like you that repeat the same old broken record, until Muslims reached the American congress and reclaimed their ancient mosques in places like Turkey.
But your likes spring to life like pests and roaches still.
From the king of the broken record.
Bwahahahahahaha!
Pot meet kettle.
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