[Serious] The black man as a slave to the white man's god

[Belacqua]

Please, by all means, parse out the gaping chasm of difference between those two phrases.

I am left mentally adrift as to where your mind's concepts currently steam full ahead.

You really don't see the difference between theology and a church's role in society? This is fundamental to how religion works. Jeez man.

Theology is the study of what God is and how it operates in the world. It is an academic subject. For Christians, it is based on some combination of logic (propositions derived from seeing the world) and revelation (propositions handed down by prophets, etc.) 

The term also refers to the set of conclusions that a given sect has reached concerning these questions. So for example we say that Catholic theology has different conclusions concerning predestination than Calvinist theology. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology


The social role that the church plays in a society is not an academic field of study about what God is and how it operates. It is the things that the members of the church do for each other and for the world. 

Of course, a church's theology will influence the role it plays. If the theology teaches that God is the Good, and that we reach him through doing good, then the group is likely to do charity. 

But in history the majority of Christians have not been very interested in theology. That's for experts. Rank and file Christians experience church as a place to meet like-minded people, to get moral support, to get pep talks, to feel important, etc. It is a psychological reminder that they are more important than their unimportant jobs and more integrated into a universe which otherwise teaches them that they are useless. It serves as a ritual center for marriages, funerals, etc. 

In US history, it has served as a hub for social movements like anti-discrimination or anti-war movements. This is the part that Eleven seems ignorant of. 

It's very likely that many people who participate in these church-based things don't believe in God, or, if you asked them, would say they hadn't thought about it. But the church is nonetheless an important part of their lives. 

In the centuries before secularism became a thing, the social role of the church included nearly all schools, hospitals, and other important social institutions. The patients in the hospital might have no idea at all about theology, and the nurses only a little more. But the church-run hospital still serves an important social role. 

Frankly I'm amazed that people don't know all this.

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Squabbling over race and religion is their perfect sandbox.

Well said! This is important.

The corporate masters know that as long as we're blaming race and religion for things, then we aren't opposing the real problems.

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[Fake Messiah]

Theology is the study of what God is and how it operates in the world. It is an academic subject. For Christians, it is based on some combination of logic (propositions derived from seeing the world) and revelation (propositions handed down by prophets, etc.) 

Just like it is a case with Astrology. Although many people think astrology is meaningless mumbo-jumbo, it is not merely casting horoscopes but is in fact a science, as "astrology" means the study of the celestial bodies (astronomy) and their influences on each other and on life on Earth.

[Athene]

Christianity did not originate as the "white man's religion". It was/is an amalgamation of various beliefs and practices, including indigenous African spirituality. 
http://blackyouthproject.com/christianit...ra-africa/

The religious indoctrination of slaves largely hinged on the distribution of highly-edited Slave Bibles with most of the Old Testament removed or forbidding slaves being taught to read as standard practices, because slaveholders feared that reading the Bible in fuller context might cause slaves to identify with the Israelites and incite them to revolt. And that's exactly what happened often enough. 
What was used as a tool of oppression was also instrumental in spearheading slave rebellions, civil rights movements and demands for liberation and justice; a double-edged sword. 

Such are these things.
It's quite apparent to me that the majority Black American do not accept the white supremacist iteration of Christianity.


I struggle to see why any black Christian would entertain being lectured by some uninformed, hateful, not-so-covertly racist white atheist's on such matters. Even if OP could compel masses of black folks to abandon their religion beliefs, there's no reason assume that that most of them would be lining up to cape for his particular white, atheistic, garbage worldview.

I'm a non-believer myself, and I'd sooner align with thoughtful, moderate Christians (or believers of most any stripe, actually) than screeching, rabidly anti-theist white atheists. 
They're on some next-level bullshit--easily among my least favorite kind of white people--and I have no intention of my energy being used to assist whatever fuckery they're looking to advance. 

That shit's for the dumb birds at BLM....heh heh.

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I imagine not all black people agree on everything.

[Gwaithmir]

This thread reminds me of an incident that occurred when I attended the 1985 American Atheist Convention in Denver, CO. Everyone who walked out of the hotel wearing a convention badge was followed down the street by evangelicals passing out religious tracts. One black atheist, who I later had lunch with, was approached by a middle-aged female proselytizer who told him, "Jesus will make you free." After listening to her spiel for a few minutes he shouted, "Make me free? Are you out of your f**cking mind? What has religion EVER done for the black man?" At that point, she walked away without another word.

[Athene]

I imagine not all black people agree on everything.

They don't.

But a fair amount of us do know better than to be duped into carrying water for white folks and being overly involved in their shit.

Even deranged BLM commies are beginning to question the wisdom of trusting fuckshit white atheists and leftists claiming "We're here to help."
Yeah--to help themselves.
Now there are BLM members all over black social media to crying foul about the self-serving white freaks in their midst ruining everything...lol.
That's what they get for fucking around with you guys. We told them not to---but they wouldn't listen.

Now they're finding out the hard way.

[Silver]

Oh, dear, well with that kind of attitude I am glad to be in a relationship with a black man who thinks nothing like you. I don’t blame you, I just pity what you allowed yourself to become.

[Athene]

Hmm...I pity the black man who's actually dumb enough to sleep with your raggedy, racist ass.

[Silver]

You enjoy making baseless claims, which speaks volumes of the person you have allowed yourself to become. Pity is not something I bestow on everyone, but you are worthy.