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An afterlife would be terrifying for me
#41
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
Fret not OP allow me to show you Pastafarian heaven;


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and this is just the entrance
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

      Conservative trigger warning.
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#42
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
(December 18, 2020 at 9:29 pm)Lek Wrote: Don't really care. How about you?

I have to say I've been steaming. I haven't opened this forum for months. I opened it today, found something interesting and made a serious comment. A minute later I get that silly response.

A long time ago this used to be a pretty insightful forum. No wonder everybody's gone.

Never fails, does it? People break the rules, get chided for it, and blame the rules. Never occurs to them that they wouldn't have got that 'silly response' if they'd simply abided by the rules they'd already agreed to.

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#43
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
(December 19, 2020 at 12:11 am)snowtracks Wrote: Spiritual beings exist beyond physical death. Some do not want to be under God's moral authority, and he will accommodate their wishes. For them, he will withdraw his involvement so that they will become untethered from his influence. If that appeals to you, then eternal separation would be your preferred choice. That choice would mean one would not know what the truth* is on any matter.

*John 14:6  - I am the way, the truth, and the life.

Evidence?
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#44
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
An afterlife would be terrifying...ly exciting (as long as we're not talking "hell" or "hell-like kind of heaven"). I wouldn't mind thousands or even millions more years to explore the world intellectually. And maybe even eternity ends up not being as horrifying as some of us make it out to be.

Nevertheless, I don't put much stock in the possibility of an afterlife. It's most probably just an idea we like to muse about.
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#45
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
(December 19, 2020 at 12:11 am)snowtracks Wrote: Spiritual beings exist beyond physical death. Some do not want to be under God's moral authority, and he will accommodate their wishes. For them, he will withdraw his involvement so that they will become untethered from his influence. If that appeals to you, then eternal separation would be your preferred choice. That choice would mean one would not know what the truth* is on any matter.

*John 14:6  - I am the way, the truth, and the life.





(December 19, 2020 at 2:22 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(December 19, 2020 at 1:16 am)Apollo Wrote: Can you give some examples of such complex ideas of happiness in afterlife in Christianity? This is interesting.

I'm not saying that anyone should believe this. Only that the standard theological view of heaven in Christianity is not simply a pretty picture of an improved earthly life.

There may be an element of mistaking the finger for the moon here.
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#46
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
(December 19, 2020 at 12:08 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(December 18, 2020 at 11:54 pm)Apollo Wrote: so all your stories and ideas are going to reflect your present lifestyle and aspirations—unlimited supply of sex and food would do it without much worrying about predators.

The kind of afterlife described by Augustine, Aquinas, Dante, Boehme, and many others, doesn't resemble this at all. 

Why is your thinking stuck so far in the past?
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#47
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
(December 18, 2020 at 9:29 pm)Lek Wrote: Don't really care. How about you?

I have to say I've been steaming. I haven't opened this forum for months. I opened it today, found something interesting and made a serious comment. A minute later I get that silly response.

A long time ago this used to be a pretty insightful forum. No wonder everybody's gone.

Thanks for stopping by you little ray of sunshine.

Have a happy, healthy holiday season.

Oh, and how is "everyone gone" if you got a response?
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#48
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
(December 19, 2020 at 3:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(December 18, 2020 at 9:29 pm)Lek Wrote: Don't really care. How about you?

I have to say I've been steaming. I haven't opened this forum for months. I opened it today, found something interesting and made a serious comment. A minute later I get that silly response.

A long time ago this used to be a pretty insightful forum. No wonder everybody's gone.

Thanks for stopping by you little ray of sunshine.

Have a happy, healthy holiday season.

Oh, and how is "everyone gone" if you got a response?
Quote:Bah humbug.

My opinion of the afterlife based on the bible is that God created the universe the way he wanted it to be.  He wanted humankind to willingly choose to be part of that world, so he created the tempter to offer us the option to exist away from him.  Those who choose him return to Eden, which is the way God originally created us.  That's why the bible speaks of a bodily resurrection.  Those who choose not to accept his original design for us go on to live apart from him.

My view is that we are all part of the same existence.  Existence has no beginning or or end.  It just is.  Therefore I have always been and I will always be.  I'm existing in time now in my current situation, but I think that this won't always be the case.  It's not as if we'll be existing for zillions of years and wishing we could end it all, but rather, taken altogether, everything will just be "now".
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#49
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
can the mind/soul exist outside of the brain/body?
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#50
RE: An afterlife would be terrifying for me
What's the difference supposed to be between being separated from god and the current state of my soul?

Additionally, the noted content of truth with an asterisk seems awfully limited - and unlikely to mean anything about any other matter.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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