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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 20, 2021 at 11:32 pm
(March 3, 2021 at 3:14 am)Mercyvessel Wrote: For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
See Romans 10:8-11
Mercyvessel, I am of the opinion that "salvation" is wholly mythical. The way I see the world, there is nothing waiting for believers after they die. Nothing at all.
Accordingly, I am also of the opinion that Romans 10:8-11 is a bogus promise that simply cannot and will not be fulfilled.
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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 20, 2021 at 11:52 pm
"The way I see the world, there is nothing waiting for believers after they die. Nothing at all."
There is an afterlife. It won't necessarily be an eternal Heaven or eternal Hell, but something will be waiting for you, whether you are a religious person or not.
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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 21, 2021 at 2:15 am
(August 20, 2021 at 11:52 pm)Ahriman Wrote: "The way I see the world, there is nothing waiting for believers after they die. Nothing at all."
There is an afterlife. It won't necessarily be an eternal Heaven or eternal Hell, but something will be waiting for you, whether you are a religious person or not.
Cool story, bro. Got any evidence?
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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 21, 2021 at 4:47 am
(August 20, 2021 at 11:16 pm)Mashmont Wrote: (August 26, 2020 at 10:33 am)Foxaire Wrote: I wish this question was my own, but I saw it on FB.
The question is still valid, however.
Why couldn't God lie if He wanted to?
Well, a passage from Proverbs comes to mind, where the Bible is listing things that God hates (how an all-good God could be capable of hatred is another topic). One of these is liars.
So if God hates liars, then if God were to lie, he would hate himself. If someone hates God, the Bible is pretty clear that they’ll be eternally damned.
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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 21, 2021 at 8:33 am
(August 20, 2021 at 11:52 pm)Ahriman Wrote: "The way I see the world, there is nothing waiting for believers after they die. Nothing at all."
There is an afterlife. It won't necessarily be an eternal Heaven or eternal Hell, but something will be waiting for you, whether you are a religious person or not.
Yeah, and I'm King Isildur.
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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 21, 2021 at 9:42 am
(August 21, 2021 at 4:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 20, 2021 at 11:16 pm)Mashmont Wrote: Why couldn't God lie if He wanted to?
Well, a passage from Proverbs comes to mind, where the Bible is listing things that God hates (how an all-good God could be capable of hatred is another topic). One of these is liars.
So if God hates liars, then if God were to lie, he would hate himself. If someone hates God, the Bible is pretty clear that they’ll be eternally damned.
Boru
I'm not saying God would lie, but the claim was that He couldn't. I'm saying He could if He wanted.
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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 21, 2021 at 10:42 am
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(August 21, 2021 at 9:42 am)Mashmont Wrote: (August 21, 2021 at 4:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, a passage from Proverbs comes to mind, where the Bible is listing things that God hates (how an all-good God could be capable of hatred is another topic). One of these is liars.
So if God hates liars, then if God were to lie, he would hate himself. If someone hates God, the Bible is pretty clear that they’ll be eternally damned.
Boru
I'm not saying God would lie, but the claim was that He couldn't. I'm saying He could if He wanted.
That's because humans lie and humans created god. Humans can attribute anything to god(s) that they want.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 21, 2021 at 10:54 am
(August 21, 2021 at 10:42 am)brewer Wrote: (August 21, 2021 at 9:42 am)Mashmont Wrote: I'm not saying God would lie, but the claim was that He couldn't. I'm saying He could if He wanted.
That's because humans lie and humans created god. Humans can attribute anything to god(s) that they want.
Humans no more created God than they did gravity.
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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 21, 2021 at 11:05 am
(August 21, 2021 at 9:42 am)Mashmont Wrote: (August 21, 2021 at 4:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, a passage from Proverbs comes to mind, where the Bible is listing things that God hates (how an all-good God could be capable of hatred is another topic). One of these is liars.
So if God hates liars, then if God were to lie, he would hate himself. If someone hates God, the Bible is pretty clear that they’ll be eternally damned.
Boru
I'm not saying God would lie, but the claim was that He couldn't. I'm saying He could if He wanted.
According to the Bible, God has lied, but let’s go nuts and assume you have a point: Why would God want to lie?
Boru
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RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
August 21, 2021 at 11:08 am
(August 21, 2021 at 10:54 am)Mashmont Wrote: (August 21, 2021 at 10:42 am)brewer Wrote: That's because humans lie and humans created god. Humans can attribute anything to god(s) that they want.
Humans no more created God than they did gravity.
God(s) exist only as a concept imagined by the human mind, the same as Superman.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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