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There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
#81
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
(September 23, 2020 at 8:36 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(September 23, 2020 at 8:33 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I've already explained what the benefits of another impeachment would be.  Should I explain it to you again?

Boru

I disagree. I think trying to impeach him again would look to far too many in the middle as desperation, not tactic.


If Biden wins, and we flip the Senate and keep the House, we will be in a far better position to correct the disaster Trump has caused.

You disagree that I’ve already explained it to you, or you disagree that I should explain it again?

There’s no one remaining in the middle.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#82
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...ts/616425/

A small little article in The Atlantic by associate professor of law ALAN Z. ROZENSHTEIN

It is about the loss of faith by liberals in the Supreme Court. Lawyers are starting to realize what historians and political scientists have known for decades.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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#83
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
I was screaming at both Bernie and Hillary supporters, NOT THE MAJORITY, but a small faction of both, that they needed to scrap their all or nothing bullshit to win, and I brought up SCOTUS back in 15/16 as being equally if not more important than if Bernie or Hillary won. But unfortunately liberals/progressives were too divided, and we lost as a result. And now, predictably SCOTUS is the most important issue especially now.

SCOTUS is important as it was back then. But if you don't win, you don't have the power to change the SCOTUS makeup.

To be fair, if we could do what Mitch did in denying Garland today, I am all for that, but the makeup of the Senate isn't there. They are not the GOP of Nixon's time and all they are concerned about is keeping power. Our only shot now is voting Trump out of office in November.
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#84
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
You guys aren't losing because you're divided. You're losing because the other guys are better at and/or more willing to game the system.

They've already declared your vote fraudulent. They've already stated the necessity of another justice in the case they will create.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#85
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
(September 23, 2020 at 2:39 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You guys aren't losing because you're divided.  You're losing because the other guys are better at and/or more willing to game the system.

They've already declared your vote fraudulent.  They've already stated the necessity of another justice in the case they will create.

No, you guys are not gaming the system As well as your opponent precisely because you are divided.    You are not unite Enough to settle on a gaming strategy and pursue it ruthlessly.   You can’t agree whether gaming is justified or not, nor what you are trying to achieve by gaming, nor whether you should refrain from undermining eachother's gaming.

The other guys all agree gaming is justify for getting what they want because they all like their kneecaps whole.   They all agree on what they want because they All like their kneecaps whole.  They all agree on a Gaming strategy Because they all like their kneecaps whole.   They all agree to pursue the strategy ruthlessly because they all like their kneecaps whole, and they all agree they should refrain from undermining eachother’s gaming because they all like their kneecaps whole.
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#86
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
RGB will be the first woman to lay in repose at the Capital, and if I am correct will also be buried in the National Cemetery. 

The only thing about all this that sickens me is that the orange fuckface is going to pretend to honor her.
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#87
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
(September 23, 2020 at 8:36 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(September 23, 2020 at 8:33 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I've already explained what the benefits of another impeachment would be.  Should I explain it to you again?

Boru

I disagree. I think trying to impeach him again would look to far too many in the middle as desperation, not tactic.


If Biden wins, and we flip the Senate and keep the House, we will be in a far better position to correct the disaster Trump has caused.

Looks is more important in the minds of many democrats that it is in reality.    The looks can be sculpted.   The democrats use to even be better at sculpting it.  I suspect some of these democrats aren’t even really that genuinely concerned with the looks.   Their outward concern is just good disguise for Their fear of decisive action.
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#88
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
(September 24, 2020 at 5:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(September 23, 2020 at 8:36 am)Brian37 Wrote: I disagree. I think trying to impeach him again would look to far too many in the middle as desperation, not tactic.


If Biden wins, and we flip the Senate and keep the House, we will be in a far better position to correct the disaster Trump has caused.

Looks is more important in the minds of many democrats that it is in reality.    The looks can be sculpted.   The democrats use to even be better at sculpting it.  I suspect some of these democrats aren’t even really that genuinely concerned with the looks.   Their outward concern is just good disguise for Their fear of decisive action.

Whaaaaaa?

That fuckface has been rejected by McCain's family when he died. And Barbra Bush's family when she died. 

The social norm is that no matter who the President is, and it has been in the past, that no matter, that President pays homage to the dignitary. Trump won't be doing it this time because he admires RBG, but because he is simply wetting his finger, sticking it up in the wind to try to detect which way the wind is blowing.
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#89
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
(September 24, 2020 at 5:44 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(September 24, 2020 at 5:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Looks is more important in the minds of many democrats that it is in reality.    The looks can be sculpted.   The democrats use to even be better at sculpting it.  I suspect some of these democrats aren’t even really that genuinely concerned with the looks.   Their outward concern is just good disguise for Their fear of decisive action.

Whaaaaaa?

That fuckface has been rejected by McCain's family when he died. And Barbra Bush's family when she died. 

The social norm is that no matter who the President is, and it has been in the past, that no matter, that President pays homage to the dignitary. Trump won't be doing it this time because he admires RBG, but because he is simply wetting his finger, sticking it up in the wind to try to detect which way the wind is blowing.

Yes, so?

How does that contradict what I said?
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#90
RE: There is no justice...... RBG RIP!
(September 24, 2020 at 4:50 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: No, you guys are not gaming the system As well as your opponent precisely because you are divided.    You are not unite Enough to settle on a gaming strategy and pursue it ruthlessly.   You can’t agree whether gaming is justified or not, nor what you are trying to achieve by gaming, nor whether you should refrain from undermining eachother's gaming.

The other guys all agree gaming is justify for getting what they want because they all like their kneecaps whole.   They all agree on what they want because they All like their kneecaps whole.  They all agree on a Gaming strategy Because they all like their kneecaps whole.   They all agree to pursue the strategy ruthlessly because they all like their kneecaps whole, and they all agree they should refrain from undermining eachother’s gaming because they all like their kneecaps whole.

The right have their own internal political divisions, but, as you note, that doesn't extend to their parties idea of the best way to play the game.  I don't think that the dems would all have to come together and sing kumbayah any more than the r's have.  Ultimately, they don't have to come together at all, their internal divisions and incompetence at-play will only push the date.  Time and demographics are on their side, but I hope they don't expect a pat on the back when the american right finally (and literally) dies off.  

When we accept the american right for what it is, the great replacement theory as their driving sales pitch, the child judges and insane grift and concentration camps are all rational (if detestable) plays.  It provides context for their ability to have internal divisions aplenty and set them aside.  They have rightly surmised that they are dealing with an existential crisis.  

Dems don't appear to be playing that game at all.  They already missed the chance to put their shitty uncle down before he went rabid, and their new (old) idea is to politely ask their rabid uncle if he wants to put a toe or maybe an entire booted foot in their tent.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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