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Breonna killers not charged.
#41
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
(September 24, 2020 at 11:04 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(September 24, 2020 at 10:50 am)Brian37 Wrote: I don't think death without trial is like getting cold fries.

You are the one who brought up the horror of cold fries.

"Do you want fries with that?" - the extent of his higher education....
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#42
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
(September 24, 2020 at 7:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It sure does, and when it does, we hold people accountable...or....?

I've got to say, this is like a fine wine to me.  The city drops the charges against her boyfriend, he files suit - they settle for 12 mil with her family (not doing them any favor), promises are made from the station to the statehouse......and the prosecutors failed to convince a group of jurists that there was anything at all worth taking to trial?  

Not exactly matlock in the fuckin courtroom, are they.

Failed?  Did they even try?  The Attorney General appeared to side with police all the fucking way.  Giving their version of events, and essentially acting like their fucking attorney.  You know, not the type of grand jury process most people get, except the fucking pigs.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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#43
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
(September 24, 2020 at 10:38 am)HappySkeptic Wrote:
(September 24, 2020 at 9:59 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's not as if there weren't crimes that the officers could be charged with.  This was the expected outcome, another demonstration of the problem that has lead to our current state of civil unrest.

It isn't a prosecutor's job to charge people with anything they "could" possibly be charged wtih.  They have a duty to only charge if they believe the evidence and law supports a charge, and that there is a reasonable chance of conviction.  Anything else is prosecutorial misconduct.

It is the prosecutors job to convince a grand jury that there's enough for a case go to trial.  They failed.
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#44
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
(September 24, 2020 at 11:07 am)Divinity Wrote:
(September 24, 2020 at 7:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It sure does, and when it does, we hold people accountable...or....?

I've got to say, this is like a fine wine to me.  The city drops the charges against her boyfriend, he files suit - they settle for 12 mil with her family (not doing them any favor), promises are made from the station to the statehouse......and the prosecutors failed to convince a group of jurists that there was anything at all worth taking to trial?  

Not exactly matlock in the fuckin courtroom, are they.

Failed?  Did they even try?  The Attorney General appeared to side with police all the fucking way.  Giving their version of events, and essentially acting like their fucking attorney.  You know, not the type of grand jury process most people get, except the fucking pigs.
"The fucking pigs"... How very fair, reasonable and unbiased of you.

I guess everone should look to you as an arbiter of fairness....
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#45
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
You concern trolling over fairness, or objecting to some point of fact?
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#46
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
(September 24, 2020 at 11:07 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(September 24, 2020 at 10:38 am)HappySkeptic Wrote: It isn't a prosecutor's job to charge people with anything they "could" possibly be charged wtih.  They have a duty to only charge if they believe the evidence and law supports a charge, and that there is a reasonable chance of conviction.  Anything else is prosecutorial misconduct.

It is the prosecutors job to convince a grand jury that there's enough for a case go to trial.  They failed.

Is there enough for a case to go forward?


That the innocent shouldn’t have to die is not enough, and in principle can not be enough, to convict those who caused the death.
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#47
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
(September 24, 2020 at 11:10 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(September 24, 2020 at 11:07 am)Divinity Wrote: Failed?  Did they even try?  The Attorney General appeared to side with police all the fucking way.  Giving their version of events, and essentially acting like their fucking attorney.  You know, not the type of grand jury process most people get, except the fucking pigs.
"The fucking pigs"... How very fair, reasonable and unbiased of you.

I guess everone should look to you as an arbiter of fairness....

You're right.  I apologize for calling them pigs.  It's very unfair to pigs.  Pigs have done nothing to me to warrant that comparison.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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#48
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
(September 24, 2020 at 7:51 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(September 24, 2020 at 4:34 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Money is also at the root of most of our accomplishments in science, Technology, productivity, and material well-being since the Iron Age.  Let’s not Forget that.


If two officers genuinely mistakenly believed a innocent person Imminently threatened both their lives.   One shot the innocent person dead, the other fired randomly to scare the innocent person but hit a school bus instead.

I can see why under this circumstance the cop who shot the innocent person dead is less culpable the cop who shot a school bus even if no one in the school bus was killed. 

The cop who killed the innocent person did a thing that was justifiable within the Genuine mistaken perception of the situation.

The cop who shot the school bus did a thing that was reckless even within the genuine mistaken perception of the situation.

No no no no no........

The warrant was based on bad info.......... The boyfriend shot, because he didn't know who was at the door.

There is no excuse for anyone to die.

Really?   That shots are being fired at me while I had reason to think i am acting properly in line of duty is not sufficient excuse for me to use potentially lethal force to preempt my actually being shot?
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#49
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
(September 24, 2020 at 11:28 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Really?   That shots are being fired at me is not sufficient excuse for me to use potentially lethal force to preempt my actually being shot?

If you break into someone's house unannounced?  Fuck no, it's not sufficient.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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#50
RE: Breonna killers not charged.
(September 24, 2020 at 11:25 am)Divinity Wrote:
(September 24, 2020 at 11:10 am)onlinebiker Wrote: "The fucking pigs"... How very fair, reasonable and unbiased of you.

I guess everone should look to you as an arbiter of fairness....

You're right.  I apologize for calling them pigs.  It's very unfair to pigs.  Pigs have done nothing to me to warrant that comparison.

Just like them hippie chicks who spit on soldiers coming back from Nam. Some day you will lie and tell everyone you always support the police.


Count on it girlie.
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