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Who is a real Christian?
#11
RE: Who is a real Christian?
I see no etymology being used here, do you?
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#12
RE: Who is a real Christian?
Well, I just have "faith" that you do.
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#13
RE: Who is a real Christian?
(September 27, 2020 at 9:07 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: If they believe the dead jew on a stick was somehow "god" then they are a christian.

Ebionites believed Jesus of Nazareth as a mere man who, by virtue of his righteousness, was chosen by God to be the Prophet of the Messianic Age, while they rejected as heresies the proto-orthodox Christian beliefs in his alleged divinity, pre-existence, virgin birth and substitutionary atonement.
Some modern scholars argue that Ebionites may have been the most faithful disciples of the life and teachings of the historical Jesus.


Christadelphians today claim to base their beliefs solely on the Bible, they reject the Trinity and the immortality of the soul, believing these to be corruptions of original Christian teaching. They believe Jesus is the Son of God, this is only a relational title toward the Father who alone is truly God. Christ's personhood, therefore, is human not divine, (believing this to be necessary in order to save humans from their sins).
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#14
RE: Who is a real Christian?
I'm a real bad christian.

My wife's a real cafeteria christian.

My ex is a real hypocritical christian.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#15
RE: Who is a real Christian?
(September 26, 2020 at 1:01 pm)Sal Wrote: Seems like modern Christians have an ever decreasing pool of doctrines to follow, eh?

The funny thing is they started from a pool of approximately zero.
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#16
RE: Who is a real Christian?
As a former Pentecostal I can attest that Catholics are not only widely believed to not be Christians because of their veneration of Mary and the Saints (sounds like a pop group but Pentecostals consider it idolatry), but widely believe the Catholic Church is the 'whore of Babylon' described in Revelation, who sits on seven mountains (ouch!). The whore probably represented Rome in the time Revelation was written, which they interpret as the Vatican.

It has been my unfortunate experience to hear the most awful slander regarding priests and nuns. You'd think the real scandals would be shocking enough, but Pentecostals circulate what amounts to conspiracy theories and urban legends about the RCC, like there being a convent in Mexico where the priests repeatedly get the nuns pregnant, bury the babies in the basement, and if any of the nuns try to escape they're thrown into a giant grinder.

But I shouldn't let myself get started....
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#17
RE: Who is a real Christian?
Stories like that are representations of animus - the people who tell them probably wouldn't put their hand on a bible and swear to their truth - but they're useful in conveying an experienced reaction to catholicism on the part of protestants here there and errywhere.
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#18
RE: Who is a real Christian?
To the OP, all of these are simultaneously true:
  • Anyone who is willing to join that voting block
  • Nobody
  • If you believe that Christ was an important religious figure

That voting block is held together with duct tape and baling wire for the purposes of unifying against anyone who is not religious.

Us nons are even LESS unified because what would we unify with? I've seen people argue the "really important differences" between the gradients of atheism including Deism.
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#20
RE: Who is a real Christian?
(September 28, 2020 at 1:09 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(September 26, 2020 at 1:01 pm)Sal Wrote: Seems like modern Christians have an ever decreasing pool of doctrines to follow, eh?

The funny thing is they started from a pool of approximately zero.

They're taking the square root of larger and larger negative numbers. I guess it's just complex like that.
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