teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Who is a real Christian?
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Seems like modern Christians have an ever decreasing pool of doctrines to follow, eh?
A real Christian is anyone who self-identifies as a Christian, nothing more is needed. Any attempt to further qualify it pretty quickly runs afoul of the No True Scotsman fallacy.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Donald Trump is a great example of true christian. Has lots of money and yet is very humble. Respects women.
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September 27, 2020 at 1:59 am
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2020 at 2:06 am by John 6IX Breezy.)
(September 26, 2020 at 1:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: A real Christian is anyone who self-identifies as a Christian, nothing more is needed. Any attempt to further qualify it pretty quickly runs afoul of the No True Scotsman fallacy. The No True Scotsman fallacy does not apply to Christians, or any other identity which has inclusive criteria, when you are upholding that criteria. No true vegan eats steak for example, and no true Muslim eats pork. It is such by definition regardless of what the person claims. Whatever the definition of a Scotsman might be, it is true that no true Scotsman lacks that definition. Once you go beyond that definition, only then is it a fallacy. No true vegan goes to work, and no true Scotsman wears Nike. RE: Who is a real Christian?
September 27, 2020 at 3:17 am
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2020 at 3:24 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Whatever the definition of a christian might be, it is true that no true christian lacks that definition. OFC it applies, that was silly.
In any case, OP, who is and who isn't a christian isn't determined by cultists bickering over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, no matter how much this clown above me wishes it were so.
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(September 27, 2020 at 1:59 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(September 26, 2020 at 1:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: A real Christian is anyone who self-identifies as a Christian, nothing more is needed. Any attempt to further qualify it pretty quickly runs afoul of the No True Scotsman fallacy. How predictably schismatic of you. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
If they believe the dead jew on a stick was somehow "god" then they are a christian.
As none of it is true then asking who is a real one is not valid. They are all false so whatever. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. RE: Who is a real Christian?
September 27, 2020 at 9:21 am
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2020 at 9:21 am by John 6IX Breezy.)
(September 27, 2020 at 9:21 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(September 27, 2020 at 3:34 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How predictably schismatic of you. Ironic. You have no problem in employing "arguments" based solely on etymology, but when it is used by others, you jump right on it. |
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