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Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
(November 10, 2020 at 2:43 am)Tomatoshadow2 Wrote: She stated at the end of the story the only way she has stayed positive is through her faith.

This is not what you say in the subject line.
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
As far as I'm concerned, the world behaves exactly as I expect it to behave if there is no omnibenevolent, omnipotent, omniscient god(s) watching over it.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
(November 10, 2020 at 11:44 am)Ranjr Wrote: In related news:

One in five COVID-19 patients develop mental illness within 90 days - study

Especially, if they're elderly. I've seen one woman get C-19 and return from the hospital with her mind gone. She's no longer the woman she was prior.
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
(November 11, 2020 at 6:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So WHAT if it's a mental crutch? Faith works, in a very real way. It doesn't mean that God is listening to you or that God is answering prayers or that God even exists. It means that you have a (for you) positive mental attitude, and it's pretty much beyond debate that such an attitude is helpful during times of crisis, such as losing loved ones.

It's a superstition, sure, but again - so what? If you think wearing your lucky hat helps you win at poker, it doesn't matter that the hat has no magic powers. If you have the hat, you're going to bet more carefully, fold when you should, etc.

As long as it isn't taken to extremes, faith is largely harmless and even somewhat helpful.

Boru

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If you use it correctly, then perhaps. Most of the time it's bullshit, and merely a placebo effect. But this placebo effect, you can just as well get by doing something real, and not bullshit yourself with faith. No faith needed, actually.

E.g. If ya need something a magic hat gives you while playing poker - then drop the hat - and try and play poker pretending that you're wearing a hat, picturing that you're actually wearing a magic hat ... that's when the magic happens. What differences does this magic hat do, when all you're missing is confidence in your ability to play poker? It got shit-all to do with the hat, and everything to do with how you're playing poker with false pretenses. That's faith.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
Faith with a child is harmless. With an adult, less so.
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
(November 15, 2020 at 3:13 pm)Prycejosh1987 Wrote:
(November 10, 2020 at 2:43 am)Tomatoshadow2 Wrote: Hey everyone,

Just wanted to share my view on a local new story done in my region. A woman, lost her mother and brother in law to COVID. She stated at the end of the story the only way she has stayed positive is through her faith. It's sad that people have to deal with loss to this stuff, but to say your last strain of hope is because of faith, I think is strange. During these times, I'm still the most puzzled about ho people of faith, can even bother with faith. To me, to you guys I think you would agree, I'm surprised the COVID thing, isn't the waking up point for people of faith, to like, you know what all religion is horrible and if God did exist, he sure wouldn't care about people. Why, do you think people turn to faith as their last hope in life?

For myself, what makes the Atheist community and especially this forum, is how great it is to always come here and share with all of you and be around other Atheists. Hope, everyone is doing well and safe.
Ultimately God decides who lives and who dies. We can tell this because healthy people are dying but no so healthy people are alive. It all depends on chance in the natural. Loving God and believing in him helps but it doesnt bring certainty. You can make all the right moves and still die. At least God can give a larger success rate.

What an evil god image you worship.

So your god image is just murdering people left and right at random? And even if ya worship this god image, you still might get the bullet, just less chance at that? You're worshipping a mafioso.

I'd cook the books just to piss of your god image/mafioso.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
@Prycejosh1987 God doesn't do shit, it's all made up stuff, biggest fairy tale ever told.

@Gawdzilla Sama Yes I just saw that, sorry for the confusion.

@Eleven Still very disappointing to see children brought into bullshit that is religion. Yes it is very scary when religion is in the hand of adults.
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
(November 10, 2020 at 11:31 pm)Angrboda Wrote: The human animal isn't geared so much to find facts as they are to find fuck buddies.  The interesting question is why religion has served as such successful grease in that endeavor.

Gave us profiles to swipe one way or another on.  Providing cultural ornamentation, long term mating solutions, child rearing strategies, signaling cues.......

Sexual dimorphism in human behavior tells us that amongst a group of men wearing crosses and selected for that fact, that the man wearing the most expensive cross will get more interest from females. Just that one thing suggests to the female that there is some commonality between them, and that this male is of higher status than the others. Similarly, a male seeing a catholic schoolgirl's plaid skirt in a group of otherwise pantsed females might expect submissiveness and availability.

As for the OPQ, it's not surprising when people turn to faith for hope, especially when faith is all they have left to lean on. I'm guessing this person couldn't be jetted off to the best hospital to receive experimental treatment. That there was nothing that could help in their friends and families medicine cabnets, and nothing they could say did anything to covid.

People do it because it makes them feel better, and feeling better - not necessarily being better, is the goal.
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
When I'm not feeling well, sometimes I might meditate and imagine that I'm on a calm relaxing beach.

It's just me, the sun, the sand and the ocean waves.

I imagine that the sun is filling my body with healing energy.
I imagine this energy flowing from my arms and legs, inward toward my chest and then to my head.

This meditation doesn't heal me. It relaxes me. It focuses my mind on something else.

My relaxed body may benefit from the meditation and that is a good thing.

As long as a person realizes that it's their imagination at work, then all is good. It's when you think that it's real is where you run into problems.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
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RE: Local woman says only way she has survived during COVID is faith
(November 10, 2020 at 2:43 am)Tomatoshadow2 Wrote: Hey everyone,

Just wanted to share my view on a local new story done in my region. A woman, lost her mother and brother in law to COVID. She stated at the end of the story the only way she has stayed positive is through her faith. It's sad that people have to deal with loss to this stuff, but to say your last strain of hope is because of faith, I think is strange. During these times, I'm still the most puzzled about ho people of faith, can even bother with faith. To me, to you guys I think you would agree, I'm surprised the COVID thing, isn't the waking up point for people of faith, to like, you know what all religion is horrible and if God did exist, he sure wouldn't care about people. Why, do you think people turn to faith as their last hope in life?

For myself, what makes the Atheist community and especially this forum, is how great it is to always come here and share with all of you and be around other Atheists. Hope, everyone is doing well and safe.

I cant stand this fucking logic. I bet that her mother and brother in law also had "faith". 

Lots of people with "faith" die too. And ultimately even if one makes it to old age, we all die. 

The death average worldwide from anything and everything at all ages is an average of 50 to 60 million deaths per year. 

That is an average of a 500 million deaths every 10 years and a billion deaths every 20 years. That doesn't smack of a magic sky hero at all.
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