Guns banned in Michigan State Capitol.

[The Grand Nudger]

The only question left for a person who says they carry a gun around...in case they need one...is who, exactly, they plan on shooting.

No amount of zingers or posturing changes that this is what they've just told you they plan to do.

[Mister Agenda]

Don’t feel pregnant. I’m sure there are tens of thousands of your fellow Michiganians who can bring a gun into the capitol building.

Boru

Try 1 million.


There are about 1 million CCW permits issued in Michigan...


That's 10% of the population.

So prohibiting open carry doesn't prohibit people with CWPs from carrying concealed firearms? Wow, who knew?

[The Grand Nudger]

CWP holders are licensed, open carriers are not. Similarly, you don't need a license to drive a car on your own property, but you will need one as soon as rubber hits road - and at any point, the government can tell license holders and none license holders that a vehicle is not allowed down a given stretch of pavement. Same with guns, in every respect.

The only thing absurd about this, is that OLB thinks it's absurd.

[Angrboda]

They passed a law prohibiting the open carry of firearms in the Michigan State Capitol building.



So you can't carry a gun in while you are taking a tour.

But I can.

[onlinebiker]

Try 1 million.


There are about 1 million CCW permits issued in Michigan...


That's 10% of the population.

So prohibiting open carry doesn't prohibit people with CWPs from carrying concealed firearms? Wow, who knew?

Not really the point.

....

This law simply proves that such laws are delusional.


How does not knowing who has a gun make an unarmed person safer?

It doesn't. It makes them FEEL safer - thus the delusion.

But that's par the course.

Your government passing laws that make you FEEL safer - while not making you safer - and sometimes LESS safe.

Enjoy the delusion.

[The Grand Nudger]

Not knowing who has a gun -doesn't- make people safer. Being around fewer people with guns does.

How are people less safe now that the only ones running around with guns are cwp holders? Are you tiny lot even more dangerous than the masses of goobers who openly brought their pistols to a hate rally?

[Angrboda]

So prohibiting open carry doesn't prohibit people with CWPs from carrying concealed firearms? Wow, who knew?

Not really the point.

....

This law simply proves that such laws are delusional.


How does not knowing who has a gun make an unarmed person safer?

It doesn't. It makes them FEEL safer - thus the delusion.

But that's par the course.

Your government passing laws that make you FEEL safer - while not making you safer - and sometimes LESS safe.

Enjoy the delusion.

Is this going to increase the number of concealed weapons carried into the buildings? Is this law going to reduce the number of unconcealed weapons carried into the buildings?

Add the two together and tell me what you find.

[The Grand Nudger]

It's something that we'll be able to check back on. If OLB is correct, we should expect to find an uptick in concealed weapons violations. However we slice it, the reg allows law enforcement to remove more guns from the premises than it could before.

If the people respond by going full on johnny reb, then..obviously, the governmenets guns laws were never the danger to the people - that would be those enemies of the state the very reg grants some protection against.

It's such a simple thing. If you have a bunch of nuts who've brought guns to the statehouse to menace lawmakers, and a bunch of planned sedition events across the nation, you say "no guns here". It's already illegal, in plenty of places, to carry a gun into the statehouse.

[onlinebiker]

Not really the point.

....

This law simply proves that such laws are delusional.


How does not knowing who has a gun make an unarmed person safer?

It doesn't. It makes them FEEL safer - thus the delusion.

But that's par the course.

Your government passing laws that make you FEEL safer - while not making you safer - and sometimes LESS safe.

Enjoy the delusion.

Is this going to increase the number of concealed weapons carried into the buildings?  Is this law going to reduce the number of unconcealed weapons carried into the buildings?

Add the two together and tell me what you find.

How often do you see open carrry in Michigan?


I pay attention to such things. The answer is practically never.

Anyone carrying in the Capitol is doing so as a form of protest.

I thought you approved of protest.

Guess not.

[The Grand Nudger]

The government of the united states doesn't respect any right to armed protest or consider armed protest a valid means of political excersize.

It is a crime. It is domestic terrorism. You are an eager apologist for this shit.