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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 1:34 am
So thats why you stan for white supremacy, is it?
Go fuck yourself.
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 2:36 am
(February 3, 2021 at 9:12 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I was just watching my local news and they said in Canada you can now be charged for buying Proud Boys merch. Holy shit. RIP Canada.
Why RIP when it was like that for decades now because in Canada there are “anti-hate” statutes and laws against spreading “false news” that have been applied to Holocaust deniers and white supremacist groups. As is the case with most countries in the world.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 4:07 am
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Quote:Allowing is not endorsing.
It is.
Quote:It would be free speech, which I wish we had in Canada.
We have free speech we don't have irrational free speech
Quote: The Proud Boys are not one group as far as I know.
Yes they are
Quote:Gavin has not been the leader for a long time.
They have an official leader who's a white nationalist
Quote: I'm pretty sure each branch has their own leader,
They have an official leader
Quote:so it's wrong to just call them all terrorists,
They fit the definition perfectly
Quote:just like it's wrong to call all of Antifa terrorists.
Antifa is nothing like the proud boys
Quote:How many Canadians invaded the Capitol?
Irrelevant they are a single group
Quote:Well, maybe if you are sending money to ISIS members,
The proud boys are a terrorist group is ISIS so it's the same
Quote: I could see an issue with that, but the rest are fine. Neo-Nazis, KKK, Nambla, the Crips and the Bloods. All fine.
Of which proud boys are just as bad
Quote: You can buy all of those in the US, right?
Irrelevant
Quote: I kind of identify more with America because of their first amendment, and the singers, actors and athletes I grew up with and like are from there. I never cared for hockey or Tim Hortons
Good then go move down there. You won't be missed.
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 8:26 am
(January 16, 2021 at 12:31 pm)WinterHold Wrote: https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/15/far...solutions/
Quote:From Brazil to the United States, Hungary to New Zealand, right-wing extremist ideas and groups are posing a grave threat to democratic societies. Within this context, the ongoing support U.S. President Donald Trump receives from parts of his base despite the drop in his approval numbers and the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 reflects the continued evolution of a global threat. As New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Arden emphasized after a right-wing terrorist killed over 50 people at a pair of mosques in her country, “there is no question that ideas and language of division and hate have existed for decades, but their form of distribution, the tools of organization—they are new.” If there is any hope of repairing those divides and advancing equality, rule of law, an inclusive civil society, and respect for human rights, the United States needs to work with other countries and multilateral organizations to build a coalition to combat the growth and spread of right-wing extremism.
Nearly 20 years after the attacks of 9/11 and the subsequent launch of what American leaders dubbed the “global war on terror,” the world finds itself confronting a new threat. Throughout the 2000s and 2010s, as the international community focused on al Qaeda, the Islamic State, and other groups espousing a particular interpretation of Islam to justify their terrorism, right-wing extremism grew around the world. Social media platforms and chatrooms offered important mediums for people to share ideas, connect, and learn from each other regardless of geographical location, facilitating connections that might otherwise have been difficult to form.
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Looks like Islamic extremism is old news....
No it isn't.
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 9:25 am
(February 4, 2021 at 4:07 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Quote:Allowing is not endorsing.
It is.
Quote:It would be free speech, which I wish we had in Canada.
We have free speech we don't have irrational free speech
Quote: The Proud Boys are not one group as far as I know.
Yes they are
Quote:Gavin has not been the leader for a long time.
They have an official leader who's a white nationalist
Quote: I'm pretty sure each branch has their own leader,
They have an official leader
Quote:so it's wrong to just call them all terrorists,
They fit the definition perfectly
Quote:just like it's wrong to call all of Antifa terrorists.
Antifa is nothing like the proud boys
Quote:How many Canadians invaded the Capitol?
Irrelevant they are a single group
Quote:Well, maybe if you are sending money to ISIS members,
The proud boys are a terrorist group is ISIS so it's the same
Quote: I could see an issue with that, but the rest are fine. Neo-Nazis, KKK, Nambla, the Crips and the Bloods. All fine.
Of which proud boys are just as bad
Quote: You can buy all of those in the US, right?
Irrelevant
Quote: I kind of identify more with America because of their first amendment, and the singers, actors and athletes I grew up with and like are from there. I never cared for hockey or Tim Hortons
Good then go move down there. You won't be missed.
I always hear Gavin say that the Proud Boys have no leader, but it looks like Enrique Tarrio is the chairman. Did he order the Proud Boys to break into the Capitol building though? Why hasn't he been charged in connection with the Capitol riots if he's no different than the leader of ISIS? All he's been charged with is destruction of property after stealing a BLM flag, and possession of a couple of magazines. This is the man we're comparing to the leader of ISIS?
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 9:44 am
He was temporarily scared straight, like most informants.
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 7:29 pm
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Quote:I always hear Gavin say that the Proud Boys have no leader,
Because Gavin is such a trustworthy guy
Quote:but it looks like Enrique Tarrio is the chairman.
Yup and fun fact he's probably an FBI informant
Quote: Did he order the Proud Boys to break into the Capitol building though?
Irrelevant
Quote: Why hasn't he been charged in connection with the Capitol riots if he's no different than the leader of ISIS? All he's been charged with is the destruction of property after stealing a BLM flag, and possession of a couple of magazines.
Probably because he still working for the cops
Quote:This is the man we're comparing to the leader of ISIS
Yup because both are terrorist groups
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 8:25 pm
(February 4, 2021 at 1:32 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: (February 4, 2021 at 1:16 am)Belacqua Wrote: Leaving aside whether the Proud Boys deserve this...
Are there any groups, or loosely-assembled associations, which ought to have their merchandise banned?
Active neo-Nazis? ISIS? NAMBLA? The Crips and Bloods, or their current equivalent? The Justin Bieber Fan Club?
I agree with you that there are civil rights issues. I just don't know if there's a line that we have to draw.
Well, maybe if you are sending money to ISIS members, I could see an issue with that, but the rest are fine. Neo-Nazis, KKK, Nambla, the Crips and the Bloods. All fine. You can buy all of those in the US, right? I kind of identify more with America because of their first amendment, and the singers, actors and athletes I grew up with and like are from there. I never cared for hockey or Tim Hortons.
In my dictionary -which is the normal human dictionary- I categorize groups into two:
1-Groups that don't cause damage
2-Groups that cause damage
Full Stop.
ISIS cause damage, so they terrorists.
Proud Boys cause damage. So they are terrorists.
Another Full Stop.
If Proud Boys had more firepower; they would've caused a hell lot of damage.
ISIS has more firepower because it is active in actual warzones. So if Proud Boys were in a warzone, I'm sure they would've blew things up, murdered the whole White House too.
So, the discussion is over before it starts: white supremacists are so dangerous.
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 9:31 pm
(February 4, 2021 at 8:25 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (February 4, 2021 at 1:32 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Well, maybe if you are sending money to ISIS members, I could see an issue with that, but the rest are fine. Neo-Nazis, KKK, Nambla, the Crips and the Bloods. All fine. You can buy all of those in the US, right? I kind of identify more with America because of their first amendment, and the singers, actors and athletes I grew up with and like are from there. I never cared for hockey or Tim Hortons.
In my dictionary -which is the normal human dictionary- I categorize groups into two:
1-Groups that don't cause damage
2-Groups that cause damage
Full Stop.
ISIS cause damage, so they terrorists.
Proud Boys cause damage. So they are terrorists.
Another Full Stop.
If Proud Boys had more firepower; they would've caused a hell lot of damage.
ISIS has more firepower because it is active in actual warzones. So if Proud Boys were in a warzone, I'm sure they would've blew things up, murdered the whole White House too.
So, the discussion is over before it starts: white supremacists are so dangerous.
Well, Canada is the only country on earth that considers them a terrorist group, and our government is lead by a man who wears blackface for fun and considers it oppression against women to use the word 'mankind'.
How do you feel about Black Lives Matter? They've caused a lot more damage and injury than the Proud Boys and BLM is nominated for the Peace Prize. Is Black Lives Matter a terrorist group to you? I'd say no, they are not a terrorist group.
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 4, 2021 at 10:17 pm
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(February 4, 2021 at 9:31 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: (February 4, 2021 at 8:25 pm)WinterHold Wrote: In my dictionary -which is the normal human dictionary- I categorize groups into two:
1-Groups that don't cause damage
2-Groups that cause damage
Full Stop.
ISIS cause damage, so they terrorists.
Proud Boys cause damage. So they are terrorists.
Another Full Stop.
If Proud Boys had more firepower; they would've caused a hell lot of damage.
ISIS has more firepower because it is active in actual warzones. So if Proud Boys were in a warzone, I'm sure they would've blew things up, murdered the whole White House too.
So, the discussion is over before it starts: white supremacists are so dangerous.
Well, Canada is the only country on earth that considers them a terrorist group, and our government is lead by a man who wears blackface for fun and considers it oppression against women to use the word 'mankind'.
How do you feel about Black Lives Matter? They've caused a lot more damage and injury than the Proud Boys and BLM is nominated for the Peace Prize. Is Black Lives Matter a terrorist group to you? I'd say no, they are not a terrorist group.
BLM was the expected reaction for the terrorism of Donald Trump and his white supremacists, white racist police officers were killing black people and take selfies over their dead bodies !
White supremacists are a disease just like ISIS, they are more advanced and capable too,and they showed their real intentions with the killing of Floyd + the attack on the Capitol; I also have my own grudge against these fucks after we saw them in action in the Mosque attacks in New Zealand.
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