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[Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
January 31, 2021 at 11:12 pm
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Not believing is actually a type of "not making sense" of the environment around .
I reached this conclusion from the following verse in the Quran:
Quote:Sura 10, The Quran:
https://quran.com/10/100?translations=
(100) It is not for any soul to believe except by Allah’s leave, and He will bring His wrath upon those who are unmindful.
[Translation]: Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
History proved that the worst type of humans are ignorant humans who insist on staying ignorant and never open their minds to new things.
Actually; you can compare the humans of the past who were ready to crucify another person for believing earth was round, to the modern people who accept even multiverses.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
January 31, 2021 at 11:14 pm
Nope.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
February 1, 2021 at 12:14 am
Yes, you can compare people who crucified others.... With people who believe in multiverse.... If you are a complete idiot like the creator of this thread.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
February 1, 2021 at 3:08 am
Being closed-minded is when one clings to a point of view for non-rational reasons. It's an equal-opportunity problem, and affects believers of all religions as much as it affects non-believers.
Holding to a point of view for a sensible reason (for example, not believing a religious claim because there's no non-scriptural evidence to back it up) is not being closed-minded. It's the rational withholding of belief when the purported evidence is too weak to stand on its own merits.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
February 1, 2021 at 4:31 am
People who don't believe in God(s) are open-minded, it's just that there is no evidence for God. For instance, here Richard Dawkins explains how as a scientist he is agnostic when it comes to God, just like he is agnostic when it comes to pink unicorns, teapots around Venus, flat Earth - he is always opened to evidence for them, it's just that there is no evidence.
after 1min 45 sec
Indeed, it seems that religious people are those who are close-minded because they are not opened to a possibility that there is no God.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
February 1, 2021 at 5:36 am
(January 31, 2021 at 11:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Not believing is actually a type of "not making sense" of the environment around .
I reached this conclusion from the following verse in the Quran:
Quote:Sura 10, The Quran:
https://quran.com/10/100?translations=
(100) It is not for any soul to believe except by Allah’s leave, and He will bring His wrath upon those who are unmindful.
[Translation]: Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
History proved that the worst type of humans are ignorant humans who insist on staying ignorant and never open their minds to new things.
Actually; you can compare the humans of the past who were ready to crucify another person for believing earth was round, to the modern people who accept even multiverses.
According to that verse, the cause of disbelief is Allah, and nothing else. It says that we can only believe if Allah gives us permission to do so, but he'll punish us for not believing.
What a fucking monster.
Boru
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
February 1, 2021 at 5:45 am
(January 31, 2021 at 11:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Not believing is actually a type of "not making sense" of the environment around .
No.
Believing is accepting some unproven explanation of the environment around, instead knowing (or searching for) the actual real explanation.
Believing in conspiracy theories provides some sense to the world around, but, for the most part, they're not founded in anything real and they turn out to have little to no bearing on reality.
(January 31, 2021 at 11:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I reached this conclusion from the following verse in the Quran:
Quote:Sura 10, The Quran:
https://quran.com/10/100?translations=
(100) It is not for any soul to believe except by Allah’s leave, and He will bring His wrath upon those who are unmindful.
[Translation]: Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
History proved that the worst type of humans are ignorant humans who insist on staying ignorant and never open their minds to new things.
Actually; you can compare the humans of the past who were ready to crucify another person for believing earth was round, to the modern people who accept even multiverses.
You can compare believers in gods with the recent believers in the Qanon conspiracy that were ready to kill US senators and destroy the american democracy
In the end, it didn't turn out very well for the believers, did it?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
February 1, 2021 at 6:58 am
(February 1, 2021 at 5:36 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: According to that verse, the cause of disbelief is Allah, and nothing else. It says that we can only believe if Allah gives us permission to do so, but he'll punish us for not believing.
What a fucking monster.
Boru
Indeed, Quran is clear in many places that Allah purposely created many people and jinns for hell with their "hearts closed" and their "eyes that can not see". So many people are predestined to go to Hell because Allah wants it that way.
Here are just some of these verses:
(7:179) And certainly We have created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind; they have hearts with which they fail to understand; and they have eyes with which they fail to see; and they have ears with which they fail to hear. They are like cattle - indeed, even more astray. Such are utterly heedless.
(28:56) Indeed, you [Prophet] do not guide whome you like, but Allah guides whome He wills.
16:37 Allah certainly does not guide those He leaves to stray, and they will have no helpers.
18:17 Whoever Allah guides is truly guided. But whoever He leaves to stray, you will never find for them a guiding mentor.
6:125 Whoever Allah wills to guide, He opens their heart to Islam. But whoever He wills to leave astray, He makes their chest tight and constricted as if they were climbing up into the sky. This is how Allah dooms those who disbelieve.
2:6-7 Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
February 1, 2021 at 7:06 am
(January 31, 2021 at 11:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Not believing is actually a type of "not making sense" of the environment around .
I reached this conclusion from the following verse in the Quran:
Quote:Sura 10, The Quran:
https://quran.com/10/100?translations=
(100) It is not for any soul to believe except by Allah’s leave, and He will bring His wrath upon those who are unmindful.
[Translation]: Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
History proved that the worst type of humans are ignorant humans who insist on staying ignorant and never open their minds to new things.
Actually; you can compare the humans of the past who were ready to crucify another person for believing earth was round, to the modern people who accept even multiverses.
No.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: is being closed minded the cause of disbelief ?
February 1, 2021 at 7:56 am
(This post was last modified: February 1, 2021 at 8:15 am by WinterHold.)
(February 1, 2021 at 3:08 am)Astreja Wrote: Being closed-minded is when one clings to a point of view for non-rational reasons. It's an equal-opportunity problem, and affects believers of all religions as much as it affects non-believers.
Holding to a point of view for a sensible reason (for example, not believing a religious claim because there's no non-scriptural evidence to back it up) is not being closed-minded. It's the rational withholding of belief when the purported evidence is too weak to stand on its own merits.
There is a word for this attitude: stubbornness. Stubbornness is practiced by all humans, but it's not always carried out because of insufficient evidence given by the other party: in many times there are other causes for stubbornness, including racism,sexism, or whatever causing it.
The more a person is stubborn the harder for them to learn anything new; hence believe in anything new too. I think many athiests are stubborn; not just "finding that the provided evidence is not sufficient".
(February 1, 2021 at 5:36 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 31, 2021 at 11:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Not believing is actually a type of "not making sense" of the environment around .
I reached this conclusion from the following verse in the Quran:
History proved that the worst type of humans are ignorant humans who insist on staying ignorant and never open their minds to new things.
Actually; you can compare the humans of the past who were ready to crucify another person for believing earth was round, to the modern people who accept even multiverses.
According to that verse, the cause of disbelief is Allah, and nothing else. It says that we can only believe if Allah gives us permission to do so, but he'll punish us for not believing.
What a fucking monster.
Boru
God created everything. Even evil is his creation. See this verse from the Quran:
Quote:Sura 91, The Quran:
https://quran.com/91/10?translations=
7)And by the soul and ˹the One˺ Who fashioned it,
8)then with ˹the knowledge of˺ right and wrong inspired it!
9)Successful indeed is the one who purifies their soul,
10)and doomed is the one who corrupts it!
You should accept how he created the world, and avoid the evil but practice the good deeds.
Just like you accept the good energy of the sun but avoid its heat.
Just like you accept the good feeling you get from swimming but avoid drowning.
Just like you accept the good patting on a cat but avoid lions.
But playing with evil only makes you a fiend.
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