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People are not 'Going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.

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People are not 'Going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
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People are not 'Going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:31 pm (This post was last modified: February 16, 2021 at 4:50 pm by The Kreisel.)
Hell is mortal consciousness - spiritual darkness.
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RE: People are not 'going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:36 pm
Isn't it a town in Michigan?
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RE: People are not 'going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:37 pm
(February 16, 2021 at 4:31 pm)The Kreisel Wrote: Hell is mortal consciousness - spiritual darkness.

Are you implying that some forms of consciousness are non-mortal?

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RE: People are not 'going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:39 pm
Nice intro.

Care for some soup?
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RE: People are not 'going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:42 pm
Hello new entity.

Tortured?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: People are not 'going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:42 pm
(February 16, 2021 at 4:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(February 16, 2021 at 4:31 pm)The Kreisel Wrote: Hell is mortal consciousness - spiritual darkness.

Are you implying that some forms of consciousness are non-mortal?

Boru

Yes, that inference is correct. 
Mortality can only be defined by it's opposite - Immortality.
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RE: People are not 'going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:43 pm
(February 16, 2021 at 4:42 pm)The Kreisel Wrote:
(February 16, 2021 at 4:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Are you implying that some forms of consciousness are non-mortal?

Boru

Yes, that inference is correct. 
Mortality can only be defined by it's opposite - Immortality.

Can you give me some examples of immortal, conscious things?

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RE: People are not 'going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:44 pm
(February 16, 2021 at 4:36 pm)no one Wrote: Isn't it a town in Michigan?

Meh, Stockholm Sweden.
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RE: People are not 'going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:46 pm (This post was last modified: February 16, 2021 at 4:47 pm by Astreja.)
(February 16, 2021 at 4:31 pm)The Kreisel Wrote: Hell is mortal consciousness - spiritual darkness.

"Spiritual darkness" is a conveniently meaningless term, usually signifying "not believing what *I* think they should be believing, and not doing what *I* think they should be doing."

And since "spiritual" is merely a state of mind with a thin veneer of mythology, it can change in an instant to a more beneficial state of mind.  Certainly no gods are required to make this happen, and certainly no gods are busting their asses trying to rescue people who are suffering in prolonged, hellish mental states.
(February 16, 2021 at 4:42 pm)The Kreisel Wrote:
(February 16, 2021 at 4:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Are you implying that some forms of consciousness are non-mortal?

Boru

Yes, that inference is correct. 
Mortality can only be defined by it's opposite - Immortality.

Ah.  A myth, then.
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RE: People are not 'going to Hell' - they're already in Hell.
February 16, 2021 at 4:47 pm
(February 16, 2021 at 4:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(February 16, 2021 at 4:36 pm)no one Wrote: Isn't it a town in Michigan?

Meh, Stockholm Sweden.

That’s a rotten thing to say. Stockholm is a lovely city.

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