Chauvin Murder Trial

[Irreligious Atheist]

You know exactly what I meant. Stop pretending. If someone in the mob threatens a witness, would you be saying that that is irrelevant since the person says they would have voted the way the mob wanted them to anyways? You like the BLM mob so you're giving them a pass. You don't like the Italian mob so you would not give them a pass.

I’m saying that her voting her conscience is a sign of fairness. If she voted ‘guilty’ only out of fear, that would be unfair.

You can’t accept what she said about her concerns regarding civil unrest and at the same time reject what she said about how she decided her vote. She’s either credible or she isn’t. 

And I don’t give organised criminals a pass regardless their national origin or ethnicity, I just don’t view BLM as a criminal organisation.

Boru

We don't know how the fear of people showing up at their houses could have subconsciously had an impact on any jurors thinking. Just because this alternate juror says it wouldn't have had anything to do with her decision, that doesn't make it so. It could have had a subconscious impact on her thinking that she is not consciously aware of.

Either way, there should be no reason for us to not agree that jurors fearing for their safety is a worthy issue to bring up. No juror should fear for their safety.

[The Architect Of Fate]

We don't know how the fear of people showing up at their houses could have subconsciously had an impact on any jurors thinking. 

There is no evidence of this.

Just because this alternate juror says it wouldn't have had anything to do with her decision, that doesn't make it so.

Ahh, so she's only credible when she affirms your narrative.

 It could have had a subconscious impact on her thinking that she is not consciously aware of.

Again there is no evidence of this.

Either way, there should be no reason for us to not agree that jurors fearing for their safety is not a worthy issue to bring up. No juror should fear for their safety

It isn't because there is no evidence it impacted her decision. You're just grasping at straws.

[Rev. Rye]

Frankly, given how much the prosecution destroyed the defense’s case, that neither the fentanyl nor any sort of carbon monoxide poisoning were responsible enough for his death to keep Chauvin from being liable for Floyd’s death, and that what Chauvin did was disproportionate to any sort of threat Floyd was posing, I doubt there was enough room for doubt for the threat of rioting to play a role in a guilty verdict.

[Angrboda]

[awty]

[Rev. Rye]

[Angrboda]

This was posted by Min over at AD. It's what the police dept. release initially said.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

This was posted by Min over at AD.  It's what the police dept. release initially said.

Sounds fine. Covers all the salient points of the incident and appears to be as true and accurate as the initial report of the Breonna Taylor incident.

Nothing to see here.

Boru

[Rev. Rye]

To be fair, I don't think any of the details are technically wrong, per se. Sure seems to be leaving a Hell of a lot out, though...

[Irreligious Atheist]

So, yeah, just keep telling yourself the jury made their decision because they feared for their lives. And not because the evidence pointed strongly towards a guilty verdict.

Who told themselves that? Could have and might have are quite different from did.

I never thought it would be controversial to state that jurors shouldn't fear for their safety.