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Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
#31
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
A palestinian would be unlikely to be thought of as white here, idk where you are - whiteness is a moving target.

Jesus, if there was a jesus, was certainly not a christian, lol.
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#32
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
Yeah but Jesus wasn't a palestinian was he?
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#33
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
Yes, a historical jesus would have been palestinian.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#34
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
Wow! This is interesting stuff. Do you think he had a beard and long hair?
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#35
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
I don't think there was ever a jesus to begin with, personally, but that's immaterial to what we would have expected of a historical jesus.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#36
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
Yeah I'm not so sure he existed either, there's very little evidence.
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#37
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
(March 19, 2021 at 4:53 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: That said, I can’t be sure this will fuck everything up more than the Ben Barnes version, which fucked up the character dynamics to the point where Basil, who was about as openly gay as the publishers of 1890 would allow, was the straightest one of the main trio.

This makes it extra disappointing for me that they changed things around....

It's the first time in history when they could make a movie with all the homoerotic elements intact and get away with it. In other words, the first time in history when they could even possibly make an accurate movie -- and they choose not to do so. 

I mean, I can sort of understand it when opera producers set Don Giovanni in outer space or something weird, because presumably we've all seen non-weird versions of it. But there has never been an accurate Dorian Gray.
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#38
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
(March 19, 2021 at 6:33 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 19, 2021 at 6:30 pm)jasonelijah Wrote: Yeah but Sammy Davis Jr converted didn't he? Hahha very funny

What’s that got to do with it? My wife is an Arab Jew and is fairly dark (she certainly doesn’t look white).

Boru

Can we get some pictures, so we can judge for ourselves? Something revealing, with a lot of skin showing.
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#39
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
(March 12, 2021 at 9:13 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Some say man was created in god' s image. But a cursory glance at the gods of the world's different regions clearly show it to be the other way around.

Gods are created in man' s image.

Also, the most popular religions are Christianity and Islam.
Somehow, judaism didn't become popular and multi-country.
Mormonism is just a new religion and it looks like it is crashing hard since the 1990s.

Anyway, their prophets are mostly men. The "god's" writers or should I say printers are all men.
Also, the priests in both Christianity and Islam are men except recently a few lady priests have popped up.
It is said that in the early days of christianity a few lady priests existed. They got fired or something.
In mormonism, only the men can be priesthood holders and for a long time, only white dudes could be priesthood holders. Their god change his mind on that a few decades ago.

Humans and their religions : The greatest show on Earth.

--Ferrocyanide

(March 12, 2021 at 12:09 pm)Angrboda Wrote: It's a bit absurd to say that man is created in God's image when God doesn't in fact have an image.

This ignores those passages in the bible where God's backside is seen, for which I'm told that the appropriate response is simply to double down on God's invisibility.

Let's check out the Bible.

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Isaiah 6:1 KING JAMES VERSION
In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. {6:2} Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. {6:3} And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, [is] the LORD of hosts: the whole earth [is] full of his glory. {6:4} And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.

^^^^^The jewish god that is being described obviously has a humanoid shape and is sitting in a chair. The train of his robe filled the room. In other words, it is a rich guy and has money to spend on lots of cloth.
In order to be able to sit, you need gravity. gravity is pulling the god in the direction of his chair.
The seraphim has body parts. 6 wings. With 2, he covers his face. Why?
2 wings covers his feet. Why?
2 wings are used for flying. Apparently, these guys are like birds or butterflies and there is gravity. There is also a need for a gas, such as air, so that these bird people can fly.
The primitive jew who wrote this can’t imagine an environment without gravity, rocket packs and alternative methods of getting around.
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2 Samuel 22:8 KING JAMES VERSION
Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth. {22:9} There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. {22:10} He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness [was] under his feet. {22:11} And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind. {22:12} And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, [and] thick clouds of the skies. {22:13} Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled.

^^^^^Ancient man thought that their god was a giant or something and causes earthquakes. As usual, natural events were thought to be caused by the gods.
Smoke comes out of his nostrils and he is something like a fire breathing dragon. The ancient man who wrote those lines was aware of the existence of coal.
Apparently, gravity has an effect on their gods.
When the jewish god walks on the ceiling (which is the sky.), it deforms.
In order for god to fly, he sits on angels and these angels flap their wings and they take him from spaceheaven to Earth and from Earth back to spaceheaven.
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God has nostrils
Exodus 15:8 KING JAMES VERSION
And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, [and] the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.


God has feet
Exodus 24:10 KING JAMES VERSION
And they saw the God of Israel: and [there was] under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in [his] clearness.



God has eyelids.
Psalms 11:4 KING JAMES VERSION
The LORD [is] in his holy temple, the LORD’S throne [is] in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.


God has a mouth
2 Samuel 22:9 KING JAMES VERSION
There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.


God has bad breath
Isaiah 11:4 KING JAMES VERSION
But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.


God has arms
Isaiah 52:10 KING JAMES VERSION
The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


God has a face
Genesis 32:30 KING JAMES VERSION
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

--Ferrocyanide
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#40
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
(March 25, 2021 at 1:06 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: God has a face
Genesis 32:30 KING JAMES VERSION
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

--Ferrocyanide

Were you raised as a literalist evangelical? I've heard that there are some people in the world who think that every word in the Bible is meant literally, but I don't think I've ever met one. Certainly I've never met anyone who takes it to the extreme that you're going to.

In English, there are a lot of idioms and phrases related to body parts which aren't meant literally. 

all ears = fully listening; cold feet = nervous just before a big event; cost an arm and a leg = be very expensive; cry your heart out = cry very hard; (my) flesh and blood = relative; get something off one's chest = tell someone your problems; have one's head in the clouds = be unaware or unrealistic about something

There are a lot of these. I think it would be strange for a native speaker not to know them, or not to understand that this is how language works. For example, you apparently think that the law has a long arm, since we speak of it. 

An image, by definition, is not the same as the thing depicted. It does not contain the essence of the thing depicted. So for example if you have a passport photo, it is an image of you. But there are major differences. Your real head is bigger, for instance. It is round. It is attached to the rest of your body. It exists in time, moving around. Its hair grows. Most importantly, behind the face is a brain where (we hope) all sorts of things are happening. So the "primitive jews" who think that the passport photo is an accurate depiction of what you are would be very silly. In fact it is doubtful that such people ever existed.
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