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RE: Founding fathers view of government
March 20, 2021 at 7:50 pm
So then you do personally blame Biden's immigration policies?
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RE: Founding fathers view of government
March 21, 2021 at 4:01 am
(March 20, 2021 at 7:48 pm)Seax Wrote:
(March 20, 2021 at 1:23 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Sounds like the human traffickers responsibility.  If we're going to blame the admin for something, blame it for something that it's doing, not something some other asshole is doing.  No shortage there.

It is the responsibility of the government to stop crimes. if crime is occuring, that is the government's problem, & if they can't or won't stop it, then they are to blame.

Probably better aimed at the last guy than the new one.  Crime and cruelty was the point of those policies.  Here again I'd point out that there's actually no shortage of legitimate gripes with this administration to be had, but human traffickers...trafficking humans?  Nope.  That's on them.
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#33
RE: Founding fathers view of government
March 21, 2021 at 6:14 am
(March 21, 2021 at 4:01 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(March 20, 2021 at 7:48 pm)Seax Wrote: It is the responsibility of the government to stop crimes. if crime is occuring, that is the government's problem, & if they can't or won't stop it, then they are to blame.

Probably better aimed at the last guy than the new one.  Crime and cruelty was the point of those policies.  Here again I'd point out that there's actually no shortage of legitimate gripes with this administration to be had, but human traffickers...trafficking humans?  Nope.  That's on them.

Drug dealers... dealing drugs? Nope. That's on them.

Mass murderers... murdering masses? Nope. That's on them.

School shooters... shooting schools? Nope. That's on them.

Child molesters... molesting children? Nope. That's on them.
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#34
RE: Founding fathers view of government
March 21, 2021 at 6:16 am
Okay, I'm lost.
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RE: Founding fathers view of government
March 21, 2021 at 6:26 am (This post was last modified: March 21, 2021 at 6:30 am by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(March 21, 2021 at 6:16 am)Eleven Wrote: Okay, I'm lost.

Cool. Thought it was just me.

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RE: Founding fathers view of government
March 21, 2021 at 7:46 am (This post was last modified: March 21, 2021 at 7:53 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 21, 2021 at 6:14 am)Seax Wrote:
(March 21, 2021 at 4:01 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Probably better aimed at the last guy than the new one.  Crime and cruelty was the point of those policies.  Here again I'd point out that there's actually no shortage of legitimate gripes with this administration to be had, but human traffickers...trafficking humans?  Nope.  That's on them.

Drug dealers... dealing drugs? Nope. That's on them.

Mass murderers... murdering masses? Nope. That's on them.

School shooters... shooting schools? Nope. That's on them.

Child molesters... molesting children? Nope. That's on them.
Seems a bit ludicrous to blame biden for drug dealers dealing drugs, mass murderers murdering, school shooters shooting, or child molesters molesting, exactly.

It would boggle my mind if a person who wants to criticize an admin drew a complete blank, and resorted to any of the above. Especially in the context of immigration, where the biden admin is very much fucking up, but in none of the thematic ways that the curvy couch tells it's viewers to be triggered by. Ironically, the biden admin is fucking up in all of the ways that it's doing exactly what that set wanted them to do with the browns. The things they really, really like. Lock em up.
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RE: Founding fathers view of government
March 21, 2021 at 11:26 am
(March 21, 2021 at 7:46 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(March 21, 2021 at 6:14 am)Seax Wrote: Drug dealers... dealing drugs? Nope. That's on them.

Mass murderers... murdering masses? Nope. That's on them.

School shooters... shooting schools? Nope. That's on them.

Child molesters... molesting children? Nope. That's on them.
Seems a bit ludicrous to blame biden for drug dealers dealing drugs, mass murderers murdering, school shooters shooting, or child molesters molesting, exactly.

It would boggle my mind if a person who wants to criticize an admin drew a complete blank, and resorted to any of the above.  Especially in the context of immigration, where the biden admin is very much fucking up, but in none of the thematic ways that the curvy couch tells it's viewers to be triggered by.  Ironically, the biden admin is fucking up in all of the ways that it's doing exactly what that set wanted them to do with the browns.  The things they really, really like.  Lock em up.

No, you can't blame Biden for the surge. Yes, you can blame Biden for the inadequacy of the response. Though I suspect Trump had a lot to do with it.
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RE: Founding fathers view of government
March 21, 2021 at 11:45 am
(March 21, 2021 at 11:26 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(March 21, 2021 at 7:46 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Seems a bit ludicrous to blame biden for drug dealers dealing drugs, mass murderers murdering, school shooters shooting, or child molesters molesting, exactly.

It would boggle my mind if a person who wants to criticize an admin drew a complete blank, and resorted to any of the above.  Especially in the context of immigration, where the biden admin is very much fucking up, but in none of the thematic ways that the curvy couch tells it's viewers to be triggered by.  Ironically, the biden admin is fucking up in all of the ways that it's doing exactly what that set wanted them to do with the browns.  The things they really, really like.  Lock em up.

No, you can't blame Biden for the surge.  Yes, you can blame Biden for the inadequacy of the response.  Though I suspect Trump had a lot to do with it.

Biden has been in office for two months.  Two.  He has focused on getting people vaccinated for COVID and seems to be checking off the list as quickly as he can.  

He can't unfuck the last four years in two months.  Nobody could.
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RE: Founding fathers view of government
March 21, 2021 at 11:48 am
(March 21, 2021 at 11:45 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(March 21, 2021 at 11:26 am)Angrboda Wrote: No, you can't blame Biden for the surge.  Yes, you can blame Biden for the inadequacy of the response.  Though I suspect Trump had a lot to do with it.

Biden has been in office for two months.  Two.  He has focused on getting people vaccinated for COVID and seems to be checking off the list as quickly as he can.  

He can't unfuck the last four years in two months.  Nobody could.

With all due respect, it is impossible to know what of this has been contributed by Biden. I suspect your suspicions are right, but that's all they are. The facts, are unknown.
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