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Raising the minimum wage won't help
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 (June 9, 2021 at 3:56 pm)Aegon Wrote:Classic faulty conclusion there......(June 8, 2021 at 1:34 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: If your sole job skill is "do you want fries with that?" you need to get more skills - or get your mother flowers regularly - because you' ll be living in her basement for some time.... Observing what is, is not a wish for an outcome.  (June 9, 2021 at 4:00 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:(June 9, 2021 at 3:56 pm)Aegon Wrote: Why do you want others to struggle and suffer?Classic faulty conclusion there...... Hahaha what? You think minimum wage should be so low that you can't live on it. Why do you want others to struggle and suffer? ![[Image: nL4L1haz_Qo04rZMFtdpyd1OZgZf9NSnR9-7hAWT...dc2a24480e]](https://external-preview.redd.it/nL4L1haz_Qo04rZMFtdpyd1OZgZf9NSnR9-7hAWTNVY.jpg?width=216&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7b11e8b38bea0eacc8797fc971574ddc2a24480e)  (June 9, 2021 at 3:47 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Shall we translate your drivel? Um, yeah, you bring a life into the world (assuming you don’t abort it or give it up for adoption), you’re obligated to provide for (at the very least) its basic physiological needs. I’m not much more of a fan of bringing more humans into this world than you are, but that doesn’t mean I’m not aware of how shit like this works.
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![[Image: harmlesskitchen.png]](https://i.postimg.cc/yxR97P23/harmlesskitchen.png) I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.  (June 9, 2021 at 2:23 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:(June 9, 2021 at 2:16 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: So, I take it you don’t recognize a difference between just having enough money to not starve or keep a roof over your head and being rich. No wonder you’re so out of touch with the economic realities of today.You just don't understand how money works. The only thing worse than ignorance is willful ignorance.
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Wiser words were never spoken. (June 9, 2021 at 4:04 pm)Aegon Wrote:Being redundant does not improve your arguement.(June 9, 2021 at 4:00 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Classic faulty conclusion there...... It just makes you boring. ... I don't think there SHOULD be a minimum wage. .... Some people ARE totally worthless as an employee. Wages should reflect worth. ..... RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 9, 2021 at 4:17 pm
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(June 9, 2021 at 4:10 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:(June 9, 2021 at 4:04 pm)Aegon Wrote: Hahaha what?Being redundant does not improve your arguement. Does it not bother you that you see people as fodder for business? Why do you want humans to serve the market, rather than the other way around? I'm not being redundant, your logic is simply limited by the way you've been conditioned throughout your entire life, so you don't see the potential that exists to actually create a society in which suffering is minimized. One of the ways to do that is to establish a minimum wage that actually allows someone to afford a place to live, for example. People's lives and well-being matter more than profits. Nobody's worthless. Sorry the neoliberal point-of-view corrupted your mind at a young age. RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 9, 2021 at 4:21 pm
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So, quick question, if there are some workers so worthless that they don’t deserve compensation, is there any good reason to not kill them? After all, if they don’t deserve to have their basic needs met, why should they deserve to still exist?
Just taking your ideology, as stated in the previous post, to its logical conclusion.
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I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.  RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 9, 2021 at 4:37 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2021 at 4:49 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:Shall we translate your drivel?Nope more like pay me fairly for my work so I can fulfill my bare minimum requirements and have some degree of dignity. Quote:Being redundant does not improve your arguement.He seems to have to repeat himself because your too dense to get the point Quote:It just makes you boring.Nothing more boring than a cynical spaz addict like you Quote:I don't think there SHOULD be a minimum wage. Yup and that makes you an idiot Quote:Some people ARE totally worthless as an employee.No one is worthless at least so worthless they should be denied what's needed to live. Quote:Wages should reflect worth.Wages should reflect the fact an employee is a human being Once again the ugly antisocial politics of OLB on full display Herbert Spencer would appluad such ruthlessness. Quote:Classic faulty conclusion there......Nope you seem happily preside over a system of needless suffering Quote:Observing what is, is not a wish for an outcome.What is artificial and can be changed. But you already to that change. So the charge sticks.
"Change was inevitable"
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June 9, 2021 at 4:58 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2021 at 5:07 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
(June 9, 2021 at 4:21 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: So, quick question, if there are some workers so worthless that they don’t deserve compensation, is there any good reason to not kill them? After all, if they don’t deserve to have their basic needs met, why should they deserve to still exist?"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population." Quote:Your reductio ad absurdum is just as lame a debate strategy as your buddy's redundancy.It's not however nor is Aegon's redundancy. y Quote:Get a valid response ready and try again.Nope, they're all valid. You just don't like the conclusion or the reflection in the mirror. So you scream out fallacies thinking you can shout your opponents down and avoid uncomfortable questions. And all caps. Yup the sure sign of a reasonable person 
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM |
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