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I dreamt that when you die, you end up flying in darkness. But in the midst of it
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RE: I dreamt that when you die, you end up flying in darkness. But in the midst of it
(June 11, 2021 at 8:13 pm)Jackalope Wrote:
(June 11, 2021 at 8:12 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Some poets play with the structure. I have a book of haikus and many of them deviate from 5/7/5.

True, but isn't haiku always 17 or fewer syllables?

Hmmm. I don't know.

(after google)

So yeah. it appears that there is some kind of 17 syllable thing going on with haiku. I also learned that there is a structure called Senryū which is similar to haiku but "often cynical or darkly humorous." It also adheres to the 17 syllable thing but deviates from haiku structure in other ways.
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RE: I dreamt that when you die, you end up flying in darkness. But in the midst of it
(June 11, 2021 at 8:13 pm)Jackalope Wrote:
(June 11, 2021 at 8:12 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Some poets play with the structure. I have a book of haikus and many of them deviate from 5/7/5.

True, but isn't haiku always 17 or fewer syllables?

Traditional Japanese haiku really have to have 17 exactly. The form is very strict. There has to be a "cutting word" at the end of one of the lines, and a seasonal word that tells exactly what time of year it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kigo

The type of subject is also very limited. It has to be a snapshot with no explicit lesson, moral, or epiphany. It has to be something close to nature.

Poems which are similar but don't strictly follow these rules are called senryu. These can be more like jokes or pointing out amusing things. 

That said, there are various schools which stick to tradition with more or less seriousness. All these Japanese things -- flower arrangement, tea ceremony, sadistic rope bondage -- have schools and traditions and when you study you have to choose a master. Experts can identify from the way you place the stems, rotate the tea bowl, or tie the knots, what master you're following. 

Modern haiku schools are looser in what subjects they allow, but I've never seen one that claimed to be a haiku but didn't follow the syllable rules. Santoka, for example, shocked the old folks by mentioning jazz music in one of his haiku. But he kept the other rules. 

The way they're written doesn't emphasize the three lines, as English translations do. But there are three distinct phrases in each.

「渋いとこ母が喰いけり山の柿」= literally: "astringent part mom eats mountain persimmon." Shibui toko haha ga kuikeri yama no kaki. Tidied up for English would be: "Mom is eating the astringent parts; mountain persimmon." Mountain persimmon is the season word, because we know when they're ready to eat. The unspoken part is that mom is giving the sweet parts to her child.
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#23
RE: I dreamt that when you die, you end up flying in darkness. But in the midst of it
I smoke cannabis.
It makes me absent-minded.
What was I saying?
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#24
RE: I dreamt that when you die, you end up flying in darkness. But in the midst of it
(June 11, 2021 at 8:51 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I smoke cannabis.
It makes me absent-minded.
What was I saying?

Lacks a seasonal reference but I like the subject matter.
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#25
RE: I dreamt that when you die, you end up flying in darkness. But in the midst of it
Okay. Here's my second attempt.

the start of summer
when pine cones are small
waiting to grow and drop down
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#26
RE: I dreamt that when you die, you end up flying in darkness. But in the midst of it
I smoke cannabis
absent-minded in springtime
what was I saying?
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RE: I dreamt that when you die, you end up flying in darkness. But in the midst of it
(June 11, 2021 at 7:59 pm)Belacqua Wrote:
(June 11, 2021 at 7:28 pm)WinterHold Wrote: There was that episode in the series "American Gods" that I saw ages ago, a black lady is actually an Ancient Egyptian goddess or something that swallows men after having sex with them, I think I remember the swallowing happens from the vagina, she did it to a white old pervert then he was sucked into a black void, naked and smiling Confused

I watched one or two episodes of that show. 

The scene you describe was the only one at all related to what the gods are like. The rest of it was just superheroes. 

I wish the whole series had been like that scene.

You should complete the first season, it gets better and the name of the show comes more into effect.
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#28
RE: I dreamt that when you die, you end up flying in darkness. But in the midst of it
Thus whilst flying
Grandma's sour, unwashed scent
Permeates the darkness.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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