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Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
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RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
(June 4, 2021 at 9:11 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(June 4, 2021 at 8:50 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: I am reading Craig's article about this 
Nope. Once you cited the lying scum WLC, you were done. That was the end of it.
Why is Craig lying ? Is he presenting trinity inaccurately ?
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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#12
RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
At work.

(June 4, 2021 at 9:15 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(June 4, 2021 at 9:11 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nope. Once you cited the lying scum WLC, you were done. That was the end of it.
Why is Craig lying ? Is he presenting trinity inaccurately ?

Not that Craig is lying about the Trinity. That Craig is known to be dishonest.

Hence using something that is untrustworthy as a source/foundation tends to leave the rest/following thoughts on dubious terms/territory. Is all.

Cheers.
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#13
RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
Oh look, Muslims debating Christian theology. You don't see that every day.
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#14
RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
At work.

(June 4, 2021 at 9:24 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Oh look, Muslims debating Christian theology. You don't see that every day.

You're obviously not watching the right Youtube channels, then. Tongue
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#15
RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
(June 4, 2021 at 9:15 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(June 4, 2021 at 9:11 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nope. Once you cited the lying scum WLC, you were done. That was the end of it.
Why is Craig lying ? Is he presenting trinity inaccurately ?

The trinity is entirely imaginary. Of course he is lying his butt off. It isn't real. 

WLC might as well be discussing the trinity of Santa, Rudolph and the head elf.
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#16
RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
(June 4, 2021 at 9:21 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(June 4, 2021 at 9:15 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Why is Craig lying ? Is he presenting trinity inaccurately ?

Not that Craig is lying about the Trinity. That Craig is known to be dishonest.

Do you have any concrete examples showing that he's dishonest? Craig is after all one of the leading christian theologians today, I doubt he made a mistake while presenting a basic christian belief.

(June 4, 2021 at 9:21 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Hence using something that is untrustworthy as a source/foundation tends to leave the rest/following thoughts on dubious terms/territory.  Is all.

 Cheers.

Okay. What would be the formulation of trinity instead.. according to you?
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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#17
RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
It works mathematically.


3 x 0 = 0.


Woo to the nth power is still woo....
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#18
RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
(June 4, 2021 at 9:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Do you have any concrete examples showing that he's dishonest?
yup. is your google somehow broken?

(June 4, 2021 at 9:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Craig is after all one of the leading christian theologians today, I doubt he made a mistake while presenting a basic christian belief.
Have you not seen craig debating other christians? It is funny as fuck. Once again, is your google broken?
And what fucking use is a theologian?

(June 4, 2021 at 9:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Okay. What would be the formulation of trinity instead.. according to you?
Superstitious crap.
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#19
RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
(June 4, 2021 at 9:33 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Woo to the nth power is still woo....

0^0=1 though..

(June 4, 2021 at 9:36 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(June 4, 2021 at 9:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Do you have any concrete examples showing that he's dishonest?
yup. is your google somehow broken?

(June 4, 2021 at 9:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Craig is after all one of the leading christian theologians today, I doubt he made a mistake while presenting a basic christian belief.
Have you not seen craig debating other christians? It is funny as fuck. Once again, is your google broken?
And what fucking use is a theologian?

(June 4, 2021 at 9:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Okay. What would be the formulation of trinity instead.. according to you?
Superstitious crap.


There is plenty of contradictory information on the internet about whether Craig is accurately presenting christianity or not.... I was hoping somebody has some clear example in mind of Craig being dishonest
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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#20
RE: Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright
(June 4, 2021 at 9:47 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(June 4, 2021 at 9:33 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Woo to the nth power is still woo....

0^0=1 though..

(June 4, 2021 at 9:36 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: yup. is your google somehow broken?

Have you not seen craig debating other christians? It is funny as fuck. Once again, is your google broken?
And what fucking use is a theologian?

Superstitious crap.


There is plenty of contradictory information on the internet about whether Craig is accurately presenting christianity or not.... I was hoping somebody has some clear example in mind of Craig being dishonest
Plenty. But why would I bother. You lied when you claimed that 0^0=1. Why would anyone engage a liar?
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