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RE: Noteworthy News
December 16, 2024 at 6:56 pm
Sounds like another unstable kid with access to dad's. Hope they also take a long look at the parents.
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RE: Noteworthy News
December 16, 2024 at 9:25 pm
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 16, 2024 at 11:31 pm
(December 16, 2024 at 6:37 pm)Sheldon Wrote:
(December 16, 2024 at 5:19 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: https://www.foxnews.com/us/madison-wisco...ian-school
More guns leads to more gun violence. 

Lets try some simply maths. 

In scenario a) there are 200000000 privately owned guns in the US, in scenario b) there is 1 privately owned gun in the US. In which of those two scenarios do you think the level of gun violence is likely to be higher? Do take your time...oh and if it helps, the gun in scenario b) belongs to a mass murdering psychopath, the answer remains the same...

In second of course as there would be no "good guy with gun" to stop "bad guy with gun". Dodgy
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 17, 2024 at 1:30 am
(December 16, 2024 at 11:31 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: In second of course as there would be no "good guy with gun" to stop "bad guy with gun".  Dodgy

Right, there are no good guys we read about stopping bad guys. Why? Because those "good guys with guns" are just as scared. They don't carry guns to stop the odd mass-shooting or the occasional armed-robbery of their favorite liquor store.

They carry a gun because it makes them feel better, even though they're afraid to use it.

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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 17, 2024 at 4:48 am
(December 16, 2024 at 11:31 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote:
(December 16, 2024 at 6:37 pm)Sheldon Wrote: More guns leads to more gun violence. 

Lets try some simply maths. 

In scenario a) there are 200000000 privately owned guns in the US, in scenario b) there is 1 privately owned gun in the US. In which of those two scenarios do you think the level of gun violence is likely to be higher? Do take your time...oh and if it helps, the gun in scenario b) belongs to a mass murdering psychopath, the answer remains the same...

In second of course as there would be no "good guy with gun" to stop "bad guy with gun".  Dodgy
Yes I am very familiar with that argument, that's why I made the maths as simple as I could for him. If he addresses this at all I'd be stunned, if he understands the argument I'd also be pretty surprised, given his recent grasp of a simple statement.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 17, 2024 at 4:51 am
(December 17, 2024 at 1:30 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(December 16, 2024 at 11:31 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: In second of course as there would be no "good guy with gun" to stop "bad guy with gun".  Dodgy

Right, there are no good guys we read about stopping bad guys. Why? Because those "good guys with guns" are just as scared. They don't carry guns to stop the odd mass-shooting or the occasional armed-robbery of their favorite liquor store.

They carry a gun because it makes them feel better, even though they're afraid to use it.
There are also some pretty gruesome stats on the massively increased likelihood of a gun death from suicide, accidental shootings, and even worse of children, in homes where a hand gun is owned. 

The obvious response to that argument though, is to ask them why criminals in countries with strict gun laws aren't shooting unarmed good guys in any significant numbers, let alone coming anywhere near the mass shootings and murders in the US.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 17, 2024 at 5:03 am
(December 17, 2024 at 4:51 am)Sheldon Wrote:
(December 17, 2024 at 1:30 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Right, there are no good guys we read about stopping bad guys. Why? Because those "good guys with guns" are just as scared. They don't carry guns to stop the odd mass-shooting or the occasional armed-robbery of their favorite liquor store.

They carry a gun because it makes them feel better, even though they're afraid to use it.
There are also some pretty gruesome stats on the massively increased likelihood of a gun death from suicide, accidental shootings, and even worse of children, in homes where a hand gun is owned. 

The obvious response to that argument though, is to ask them why criminals in countries with strict gun laws aren't shooting unarmed good guys in any significant numbers, let alone coming anywhere near the mass shootings and murders in the US.

That's an easy ask. It's because very few countries have raised gun fetishism to the levels seen in the US. We view gun ownership as a privilege, not a right. 

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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 17, 2024 at 6:51 am
(December 17, 2024 at 5:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 17, 2024 at 4:51 am)Sheldon Wrote: There are also some pretty gruesome stats on the massively increased likelihood of a gun death from suicide, accidental shootings, and even worse of children, in homes where a hand gun is owned. 

The obvious response to that argument though, is to ask them why criminals in countries with strict gun laws aren't shooting unarmed good guys in any significant numbers, let alone coming anywhere near the mass shootings and murders in the US.

That's an easy ask. It's because very few countries have raised gun fetishism to the levels seen in the US. We view gun ownership as a privilege, not a right. 

Boru
There's definitely a cultural anomaly, alongside a ridiculous prevalence of private gun ownership.
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RE: Noteworthy News
December 17, 2024 at 8:51 am
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
December 17, 2024 at 10:19 am
(December 17, 2024 at 1:30 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(December 16, 2024 at 11:31 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: In second of course as there would be no "good guy with gun" to stop "bad guy with gun".  Dodgy

Right, there are no good guys we read about stopping bad guys. Why? Because those "good guys with guns" are just as scared. They don't carry guns to stop the odd mass-shooting or the occasional armed-robbery of their favorite liquor store.

They carry a gun because it makes them feel better, even though they're afraid to use it.

I would say that it is for the best as I doubt that majority of gun owners would be as accurate as Simo Hayha.
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