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RE: Traddy Catholics on the ropes?
July 18, 2021 at 10:14 am
The history of the rcc’s campaign to consolidate local and regional spiritual leaders and centers through history would suggest as much - I think.
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RE: Traddy Catholics on the ropes?
July 18, 2021 at 10:46 am
Then again, that's the main RCC acting on its desire for hegemony. Even if they thought any of these sedevacantist sects could have some real influence, does this mean they're right to think so?
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RE: Traddy Catholics on the ropes?
July 18, 2021 at 11:20 am
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I guess that’s where it gets into the weeds. Even if they weren’t right to think so, their efforts appear to have created the effect.
Historically, it was mixed, and we can add in a third general theme of missing movements that certainly mattered.
Whatever the distribution may be in the specifics, that history has, I think, left the institution with absolutely no patience for any repeat performances.
-all of this is explicitly from the administrative viewpoint. There’s the religion- the people, the culture, and then there’s the business of the religious state, as it were.
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RE: Traddy Catholics on the ropes?
July 18, 2021 at 12:15 pm
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At best, I think the surviving sedevacantist movements tend to be more hanging on than catching on. They still exist, but they're not growing more popular. The numbers of groups will likely grow, but the number of adherents isn't likely to get bigger after their initial formation (except maybe from the members having kids and raising them into the horseshit). At least, that's what I see in sedevacantist groups today.
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RE: Traddy Catholics on the ropes?
July 18, 2021 at 2:15 pm
(July 18, 2021 at 12:15 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: At best, I think the surviving sedevacantist movements tend to be more hanging on than catching on. They still exist, but they're not growing more popular. The numbers of groups will likely grow, but the number of adherents isn't likely to get bigger after their initial formation (except maybe from the members having kids and raising them into the horseshit). At least, that's what I see in sedevacantist groups today.
That's my impression, also, which is why, if they are going to survive in the religious marketplace, they need to consolidate. Besides, I think it would be cool if the RCC had some competition!
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RE: Traddy Catholics on the ropes?
July 18, 2021 at 2:17 pm
(July 18, 2021 at 2:15 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (July 18, 2021 at 12:15 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: At best, I think the surviving sedevacantist movements tend to be more hanging on than catching on. They still exist, but they're not growing more popular. The numbers of groups will likely grow, but the number of adherents isn't likely to get bigger after their initial formation (except maybe from the members having kids and raising them into the horseshit). At least, that's what I see in sedevacantist groups today.
That's my impression, also, which is why, if they are going to survive in the religious marketplace, they need to consolidate. Besides, I think it would be cool if the RCC had some competition!
They do have competition. They’re called ‘protestants’.
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RE: Traddy Catholics on the ropes?
July 18, 2021 at 2:20 pm
(July 18, 2021 at 2:15 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (July 18, 2021 at 12:15 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: At best, I think the surviving sedevacantist movements tend to be more hanging on than catching on. They still exist, but they're not growing more popular. The numbers of groups will likely grow, but the number of adherents isn't likely to get bigger after their initial formation (except maybe from the members having kids and raising them into the horseshit). At least, that's what I see in sedevacantist groups today.
That's my impression, also, which is why, if they are going to survive in the religious marketplace, they need to consolidate. Besides, I think it would be cool if the RCC had some competition!
I've heard that, in parts of France, the movement is fairly consolidated, but, of course, in America, there's a shitton of people vying for the title of antipope, and, of course, this makes the possibility of consolidation even more remote.
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