Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?

[Huggy Bear]

Indentured servitude is illegal, and unethical. You can’t possibly imagine that bad human actors doing a thing gets a god off the hook for endorsing it anymore than you could believe finding a hypocritical human would change the fact that god endorsed some horrid thing?

The Christian god is and was a slaver. That’s no one and no societies problem. That’s your gods problem. Perhaps it wouldn’t have been quite the problem it has been for the world had good and godly people not been able to stamp slavery with the approval of the divine?

-and….yes, there is a difference between wage garnishment and slavery. What the actual fuck?

Treat others how you want to be treated? Sound familiar, therefore treat your servants how you'd want to be treated in thier position...

Say I had the ability to garnished your pay, leaving you only enough to pay for your food and rent, explain to me how that's different from indentured servitude...

[The Grand Nudger]

It doesn’t matter whether a slaver treats his slaves well. They’re still slaves.

This is disgusting, and either you or god should be ashamed of yourselves. I’ll ask again, which one of you is fucking up on this?

As for the other, I’ve had my wages garnished beyond my ability to pay for food or rent. It sucks, but at least I wasn’t someone else’s legal property. Had to move in with family and get my finances situated. Pretty glad that my children weren’t auctioned off to satisfy my debt.

[Huggy Bear]

It doesn’t matter whether a slaver treats his slaves well. They’re still slaves.

This is disgusting, and either you or god should be ashamed of yourselves. I’ll ask again, which one of you is fucking up on this?

As for the other, I’ve had my wages garnished beyond my ability to pay for food or rent. It sucks, but at least I wasn’t someone else’s legal property.

Indentured servants aren't property either, it's for a define period if time. what's your point?

What consenting adults agree to is thier business.

[The Grand Nudger]

There are plenty of illegal and unethical things adults might consent to, but neither indentured servitude nor slavery are good representatives of that set at any rate.

I want to point out, at this point… that even if Christianity doesn’t inherently support slavery…you do.

Good job. You see, it’s only a matter of time until some Christian pops in and says, yeah- they got that wrong. That’s not representative of god or of the Christian religion. You’ll still be an advocate, having debased yourself in the service of a hypothetical gentle slaver. I hear Jefferson played the cello for his field hands…and was awfully “nice” to at least a few.

[Huggy Bear]

There are plenty of illegal and unethical things adults might consent to, but neither indentured servitude nor slavery are good representatives of that set at any rate.

I want to point out, at this point… that even if Christianity doesn’t inherently support slavery…you do.

Good job. You see, it’s only a matter of time until some Christian pops in and says, yeah- they got that wrong. That’s not representative of god or of the Christian religion. You’ll still be an advocate, having debased yourself in the service of a hypothetical gentle slaver. I hear Jefferson played the cello for his field hands…and was awfully “nice” to at least a few.

Why do you continue to make bad faith arguments?

Did Jefferson have indentured servants or slaves? We're clearly not talking about the same thing.

[The Grand Nudger]

Have we gotten to the pure projection portion of this shitshow?

You took a disgusting position and made incompetent arguments for it. You could stop at any time.

[Huggy Bear]

Have we gotten to the pure projection portion of this shitshow?

You took a disgusting position and made incompetent arguments for it. You could stop at any time.

I'll ask one more time. Do you think indentured servitude and slavery are the same thing, yes or no. If you can't answer that simple question it shows you are being dishonest.

[The Grand Nudger]

I’ll answer a third time the same way as the first. In many ways, yes. In three ways relevant to the thread, slavery, serfdom, and indentured servitude are all illegal, unethical, and endorsed by magic book.

You too, provided it’s gentle or consenting, apparently. Besides, alot of people are doing it.



Disgusting position, incompetent arguments, all of it pointless. You should be ashamed.

Wanna ask again?

[Huggy Bear]

I’ll answer a third time the same way as the first. In many ways, yes. In three ways relevant to the thread, slavery, serfdom, and indentured servitude are all illegal, unethical, and endorsed by magic book.

You too, provided it’s gentle or consenting, apparently. Besides, alot of people are doing it.



Disgusting position, incompetent arguments, all of it pointless. You should be ashamed.

Wanna ask again?

So they are different, that's what I thought.

Illegal? Are you seriously trying to apply US law to a 5000 year old society?
Chattel Slavery was literally legal here just over 100 years ago where it would have been Illegal according to Biblical law...

Go to bed.

[The Grand Nudger]

It wasn’t illegal according to biblical law, and I would like to be surprised if you insisted that your silly god was subject to a 5000 year old society or that the legality of slavery in any age was any defense of a slaving god.

Disgusting position, incompetent arguments, you should be ashamed.

Is there any other horrible thing you’d like to go to bat for? Even better, is there any horrible thing you -wouldn’t- …..? Is there any floor to your religious beliefs whatsoever?