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Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:09 am)Mashmont Wrote:
(July 24, 2021 at 5:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: tackattack made the very good point that the ‘PSA: Rape Apologetics’ is veering off topic. Since this goes against both the spirit and the letter of [Serious] threads, feel free to have that discussion here.

My answer: yup.

Boru

I can speak for the Catholic Church on this.  The Vatican came out very early, 1839, in its denunciation of colonial slavery like was prevalent at that time.  As usual, the RCC was ahead of the game, just like it is now on  abortion which, 100 years hence, will also be viewed as the barbaric practice it is.

As for women, the RCC elevates women.  Its seeks to surround women with protections, aka,  a loving husband and family, with the accompanying support financially and otherwise.
Contrast that with the current secular model which tells us women don't need marriage or men,  are free to have sex outside marriage,  and are better off poor single mothers bearing all the burden themselves.

What secular model tells us that women are better off poor single mothers? I think you're posting bullshit talking points.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:30 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 11:09 am)Mashmont Wrote: I can speak for the Catholic Church on this.  The Vatican came out very early, 1839, in its denunciation of colonial slavery like was prevalent at that time.  As usual, the RCC was ahead of the game, just like it is now on  abortion which, 100 years hence, will also be viewed as the barbaric practice it is.

As for women, the RCC elevates women.  Its seeks to surround women with protections, aka,  a loving husband and family, with the accompanying support financially and otherwise.
Contrast that with the current secular model which tells us women don't need marriage or men,  are free to have sex outside marriage,  and are better off poor single mothers bearing all the burden themselves.

What secular model tells us that women are better off poor single mothers?  I think you're posting bullshit talking points.
This is the message of the radical feminists on the left and echoed in the godless media and embraced by our government.  "Men are oppressors".  "Women don't need men".  "Sex outside marriage is not only permissible; it is good".
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:33 am)Mashmont Wrote: "Women don't need men"
You disagree?
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:38 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 11:33 am)Mashmont Wrote: "Women don't need men"
You disagree?

Yes.  I disagree.  We all need each other.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:39 am)Mashmont Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 11:38 am)Deesse23 Wrote: You disagree?

Yes.  I disagree.  We all need each other.
What about a woman supporting a woman?
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:47 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 11:39 am)Mashmont Wrote: Yes.  I disagree.  We all need each other.
What about a woman supporting a woman?

Men are necessary for the creation of children that form a cocoon around a woman and protect her in later life, presumably when the husband is gone.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:49 am)Mashmont Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 11:47 am)Deesse23 Wrote: What about a woman supporting a woman?

Men are necessary for the creation of children that form a cocoon around a woman and protect her in later life, presumably when the husband is gone.

That elevates women how?
Do men need a "cocoon" as well, by women for example?
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:33 am)Mashmont Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 11:30 am)Angrboda Wrote: What secular model tells us that women are better off poor single mothers?  I think you're posting bullshit talking points.
This is the message of the radical feminists on the left and echoed in the godless media and embraced by our government.  "Men are oppressors".  "Women don't need men".  "Sex outside marriage is not only permissible; it is good".

Citation needed. You're conflating those things with advocating single motherhood. They aren't. It's just bullshit. Cite any prominent feminist who advocates that single motherhood is the preferable option.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:53 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 11:33 am)Mashmont Wrote: This is the message of the radical feminists on the left and echoed in the godless media and embraced by our government.  "Men are oppressors".  "Women don't need men".  "Sex outside marriage is not only permissible; it is good".

Citation needed.  You're conflating those things with advocating single motherhood.  They aren't.  It's just bullshit.  Cite any prominent feminist who advocates that single motherhood is the preferable option.

They clearly advocate the things which lead to single motherhood, which are the things I listed.  "Men are oppressors".  "Women don't need men".  "Sex outside marriage is not only permissible; it is good".

It's such common knowledge that feminists espouse these things that no citation is needed.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
(August 21, 2021 at 11:58 am)Mashmont Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 11:53 am)Angrboda Wrote: Citation needed.  You're conflating those things with advocating single motherhood.  They aren't.  It's just bullshit.  Cite any prominent feminist who advocates that single motherhood is the preferable option.

They clearly advocate the things which lead to single motherhood, which are the things I listed.  "Men are oppressors".  "Women don't need men".  "Sex outside marriage is not only permissible; it is good".

Uh, no they don't. All three things are fully consistent with other lifestyles. None of them lead to single motherhood much less advocate it. You're talking points are bullshit.

"Men are oppressors." So? This doesn't say partnering with a man is undesirable.

"Women don't need men." I don't need ice cream, that isn't advising me to avoid ice cream.

"Sex outside marriage is not only permissible; it is good." I don't think anybody needs feminists to convince people that sex in or out of marriage is good. Is anybody saying it's preferable? No.
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