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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 1:42 pm
(August 27, 2021 at 1:36 pm)Spongebob Wrote: I wouldn't characterize my experience as disillusionment and I am certainly not bitter. It was more like basic disagreement with the concepts. It took me a while to understand that no religion is pure. Religion is imbued with all sorts of cultural baggage and I later learned that much of the aspects that I couldn't abide were in fact cultural. But in that church, the two were indistinguishable, so to accept one is to accept all. So I decided to look elsewhere for a better fit. The problem was that the more shoes I tried on, the more I realized I liked going barefoot. This is similar to my own experience with religion. However, instead of trying out other religions, after leaving Catholicism, I just went straight to going barefoot.
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 1:45 pm
(August 27, 2021 at 12:34 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Study finds religious people are generally happier than non-religious people.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20...-question/
Yea, of course. I know how they feel. I wanted to do it with Farrah Fawcett, Jacklyn Smith, Donna Wilkes, Tonya Roberts. To name a few.
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 3:04 pm
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2021 at 3:36 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I'd be genuinely interested in hearing what a religion with a god can provide that a religion with no gods couldn't.
The so-called god shaped hole may just be a religion shaped hole..and we call it the other thing on account of being much more familiar with religions of gods. To the point where - and these boards are a great example, the terms are conceptually interchangeable. When we hear about "religious people" we assume and the speaker is, generally, talking about christians. When they say the problem with religions is that .......- and what follows is a litany of god bothering absurdities.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 4:06 pm
(August 27, 2021 at 3:04 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'd be genuinely interested in hearing what a religion with a god can provide that a religion with no gods couldn't.
The so-called god shaped hole may just be a religion shaped hole..and we call it the other thing on account of being much more familiar with religions of gods. To the point where - and these boards are a great example, the terms are conceptually interchangeable. When we hear about "religious people" we assume and the speaker is, generally, talking about christians. When they say the problem with religions is that .......- and what follows is a litany of god bothering absurdities. Maybe that's what you assume? I never make that assumption.
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 4:08 pm
(August 27, 2021 at 3:04 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'd be genuinely interested in hearing what a religion with a god can provide that a religion with no gods couldn't. mmmmmm...a god?
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 4:11 pm
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Right, but is that it? To say that there are things that a religion of god can provide that a religion without a god can't..is just to say that the one has a god....?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 4:14 pm
Quote:mmmmmm...a god?
So nothing at all then 
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 4:19 pm
I just wanna say, I think Neo's answer was hilarious and awesome.
But, doesn't that kinda suggest what theists don't like to say: that their god is something manufactured by their religion?
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 4:26 pm
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2021 at 4:26 pm by Angrboda.)
(August 27, 2021 at 4:11 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Right, but is that it? To say that there are things that a religion of god can provide that a religion without a god can't..is just to say that the one has a god....?
Gods supply trancendant values. They aren't the only thing that does, but only certain things do.
Buddhism and certain Hindu beliefs do as well by postulating a transcendant law of karma, or by positing that reality has transcendant properties of some sort.
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
August 27, 2021 at 4:37 pm
People who don't believe in gods, and aren't buddhists or hindu...can and do also believe in transcendent values, right?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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