Daily conspiracy

[zebo-the-fat]

If the Earth is flat why can I not put a telescope on the west coast of Ireland and see the statue of liberty?

(Probably because "they" would stop me!)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

RFK Jr suggests CIA assassinated JFK and says he takes 'precautions' to avoid the same fate

During an appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast, 2024 Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he takes "precautions" to avoid being assassinated like his uncle, former President John F. Kennedy.

RFK Jr. told Rogan that he suspects the CIA was involved in his uncle's death.

https://www.rawstory.com/rfk-jr-2661377040/

High, gorgeous.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If the Earth is flat why can I not put a telescope on the west coast of Ireland and see the statue of liberty?

(Probably because "they" would stop me!)

If the Earth were flat you'd always be able to see the Sun, barring overcast.

And what if the turtles went on strike. Teamsters, all of them.

[Fake Messiah]

The Titanic Truthers of TikTok

On the short-form video app, long-established facts about the 1912 disaster at sea are being newly litigated as musty rumors merge with fresh misinformation and manipulated content.

One 32-second post opens with a dramatic black-and-white drawing of the Titanic, its stern straining above waves studded with people, set to a spooky synthesizer tune. A man in a hoodie and a backward baseball cap, crudely green-screened into the frame, makes a familiar argument (accompanied by an emoji of a screaming face): “The Titanic NEVER actually sank.” Looking into the camera, he repeats the so-called and exhaustively disproved “swap” theory — that the ruins on the seabed belong to the Titanic’s older and decrepit sister ship, the Olympic, scuttled in an attempt at insurance fraud.

Another video presents a conspiracy theory that the wreck was a “hit job” ordered by the financier J.P. Morgan — whose real name was John Pierpont Sr. — to eliminate opponents of the Federal Reserve.

“It becomes kind of deflating to see a lot of this junk coming out,” said Charles A. Haas, a founder of the Titanic International Society who has spent six decades studying the ill-fated vessel. He co-wrote five books on the topic, dived down to the wreck site twice and debunked more conspiracy theories than he cares to count. “I feel like one of the very few voices crying out against the sound of a hurricane.”

TikTok is just the latest recycling bin for false narratives about the Titanic, which began circulating almost as soon as the ship had sunk.

A month after the wreck, The Washington Post raised the possibility that the tragedy stemmed from the “ancient malice” of a mummified Egyptian priestess, who cursed an editor after he dared to tell her story to fellow Titanic passengers. Others have tried, unconvincingly, to pin the high death toll on Winston Churchill, a German submarine, sabotage-minded Catholic shipbuilders or decks that could be electromagnetically sealed to prevent passengers below from escaping. The Freemasons were accused of orchestrating a cover-up.

Mr. Morgan, whose White Star Line owned the Titanic, figures prominently in Titanic lore. TikTok videos repeat decades-old claims that the millionaire backed out of a planned trip on the Titanic minutes or hours before it set sail because he intended to use the ship to assassinate powerful enemies onboard who opposed his efforts to create a centralized banking system. (In some tellings, TikTok creators have recast the villains as the wealthy Rothschild family or even the Catholic order of the Jesuits.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/16/busin...ation.html

[Fake Messiah]

He's gonna be the president

RFK Jr. Says China is Developing ‘Ethnic Bioweapons’ That Can Attack ‘Certain Racial Types’

The exchange took place on Newsmax’s On the Record with Greta Van Susteren Tuesday night where Kennedy appeared as a guest.

"And we know that the Chinese are developing ethnic bio weapons, bio weapons that are designed to attack people of certain racial types," Kennedy said.

“We are doing the same thing. We’ve been collecting Chinese DNA, we’ve been collecting Russian DNA specifically for that. This arms race is a catastrophe,” he added.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/rfk-jr...ial-types/

[Irreligious Atheist]

And I quote, " And now, multiple sources close to the matter have come forward to tell Public that Grusch's core claims are accurate. The individuals are all either high-ranking intelligence officials, former intelligence officials, or individuals who we could verify were involved in US government UAP efforts, for three or more decades each. Two of them have testified, including as recently as last year, to both AARO and Congress."

You certainly hallucinate and don't want to sober up.

Even Stephen Hawking talked about the prospect of alien visitation, as he was against us trying to make contact because of the danger behind it. Was he high on hard drugs? Many other scientists have talked about the possibility of visitation as well. It's fine to think it's unlikely, but ruling it out basically as impossible is a lack of imagination. We're still cave man apes basically and we don't have it all figured out.

Classified evidence that could not have been shown to the public has been given by Grusch to the inspector general, who then called his complaints urgent and credible after looking at that evidence. I'm not saying I believe it. It's a lot more likely to be a false story, but we can't ignore all the smoke here. Why did the inspector general call this credible after looking at the evidence they were provided? Is the inspector general a UAP nut as well? And it's not true that what Shellenberger is putting forth is only based on second and third hand accounts. Shellenberger said in an interview on the Skeptic channel that he has had this confirmed by top intelligence officials who say they saw the craft themselves with their own eyes. These other top intelligence officials are just not willing to go public at this point. Again, probably didn't really happen, but I applaud Shellenberger for his work here and for being willing to take a hit to his credibility in some spaces by being involved in this subject.

[The Grand Nudger]

Alot of the work is being done by framing. That a bunch of people are running their mouth to Grusch is, itself.."urgent and credible"...even if what they're saying to him is not. All of the "the government says this and the government says that" terminates abruptly at the fact that the same government that all of this framing is being applied to has come out and said, on record, that they have absolutely no alien shit in their possession, and that none of the still classified uaps they're looking at are of alien origin.

I think the whole saga is delicious. A piece of political theater that got away from it's owners...until they managed to rein it back in and attach a moneybeg rider. Conspiracy in plain sight, but the conspiracists don't see it, can't...I guess.

[Mister Agenda]

You certainly hallucinate and don't want to sober up.

Even Stephen Hawking talked about the prospect of alien visitation, as he was against us trying to make contact because of the danger behind it. Was he high on hard drugs? Many other scientists have talked about the possibility of visitation as well. It's fine to think it's unlikely, but ruling it out basically as impossible is a lack of imagination. We're still cave man apes basically and we don't have it all figured out.

It is a gross misrepresentation of Stephen Hawking's position to suggest that he thought aliens were already visiting us.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Even Stephen Hawking talked about the prospect of alien visitation, as he was against us trying to make contact because of the danger behind it. Was he high on hard drugs? Many other scientists have talked about the possibility of visitation as well. It's fine to think it's unlikely, but ruling it out basically as impossible is a lack of imagination. We're still cave man apes basically and we don't have it all figured out.

Shocker scientists can hold silly personal views that are totally divorced from their intelligence

[Irreligious Atheist]

Even Stephen Hawking talked about the prospect of alien visitation, as he was against us trying to make contact because of the danger behind it. Was he high on hard drugs? Many other scientists have talked about the possibility of visitation as well. It's fine to think it's unlikely, but ruling it out basically as impossible is a lack of imagination. We're still cave man apes basically and we don't have it all figured out.

It is a gross misrepresentation of Stephen Hawking's position to suggest that he thought aliens were already visiting us.

I didn't claim Hawking suggested that (but if it was so obvious to you guys that UAP can't reach us, why couldn't Hawking see that obvious point?). I don't think aliens are already here, nor does Michael Shellenberger, who was given this information by several top intelligence officials. I just reject how this story was framed by the poster who originally posted about it. He made it out to be just like a national inquirer story. He ignored that Grusch provided evidence to the inspector general. He pretended that this was all third hand heresay when Shellenberger has spoken to supposed first hand witnesses. Do you think this story should not have been reported on? Should no respectable journalist have touched it? The point is, if the story was obviously not true, then why try to pretend that it's no different from a national enquirer story? It's like when people feel the need to add in lies to try to make a Trump news story sound 5 percent worse, when Trump already looks pretty damn bad if you would just report the complete truth about him. No need to add untruths to a news story when Trump can look pretty bad on his own based on the truth. If you guys feel the same about this Grusch story, then no need to exaggerate to throw Shellinberger and the news network that aired Grusch's interview under the bus. This is no national inquirer story.