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RE: Stupid things religious people say
November 9, 2022 at 7:49 pm
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
November 12, 2022 at 9:36 am
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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November 12, 2022 at 10:23 am
(November 12, 2022 at 9:36 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: ![[Image: pwRTzX72_o.jpeg]](https://images2.imgbox.com/6c/7a/pwRTzX72_o.jpeg)
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
November 20, 2022 at 2:52 pm
Oh well, since there are so many Trekkies on this forum, here is a problem that James Doohan had in his marriage solely because he was a Catholic. It is a problem that I presume arises with many couples of different denominations.
Quote:We came back from the honeymoon, and a married girlfriend of Janet's came to visit. The girlfriend was pregnant, and upon seeing her Janet thought, Oh, God, that's going to happen to me, because he's Catholic. He's not using condoms or anything else.
And damned if she didn't bring her mother and father into the bedroom to talk about the subject to me. They said, "Why don't you use these things?"
To say I was uncomfortable discussing it is to understate the matter. Janet had said she understood, she'd promised she'd understood, and now I was being asked—ordered—to justify very personal beliefs. "Because it's against my religion," I said. That's when I should have been smart enough to choose an annulment. I'm sure the church would have supported me.
But instead I stuck it out for seventeen years. You can't always be looking for a way to escape from an undesirable situation. So instead of trying to escape, I chose to stay and fight for something I believed in: a Catholic marriage.
Frankly, Normandy was a hell of a lot easier.
So he was ready to divorce his wife because of his religion but then decided to stay and suffer. And suffering came from him trying to make a Catholic marriage?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
November 20, 2022 at 4:35 pm
(November 20, 2022 at 2:52 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh well, since there are so many Trekkies on this forum, here is a problem that James Doohan had in his marriage solely because he was a Catholic. It is a problem that I presume arises with many couples of different denominations.
Quote:We came back from the honeymoon, and a married girlfriend of Janet's came to visit. The girlfriend was pregnant, and upon seeing her Janet thought, Oh, God, that's going to happen to me, because he's Catholic. He's not using condoms or anything else.
And damned if she didn't bring her mother and father into the bedroom to talk about the subject to me. They said, "Why don't you use these things?"
To say I was uncomfortable discussing it is to understate the matter. Janet had said she understood, she'd promised she'd understood, and now I was being asked—ordered—to justify very personal beliefs. "Because it's against my religion," I said. That's when I should have been smart enough to choose an annulment. I'm sure the church would have supported me.
But instead I stuck it out for seventeen years. You can't always be looking for a way to escape from an undesirable situation. So instead of trying to escape, I chose to stay and fight for something I believed in: a Catholic marriage.
Frankly, Normandy was a hell of a lot easier.
So he was ready to divorce his wife because of his religion but then decided to stay and suffer. And suffering came from him trying to make a Catholic marriage?
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
November 21, 2022 at 6:29 am
(November 12, 2022 at 9:36 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
I need to ponder this a while. I don't recall any church or preacher being involved in my pregnancies. How do people actually fall for this crap?
The Spirit of Pregnancy...WTAF?
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
November 22, 2022 at 1:48 am
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
November 24, 2022 at 2:57 pm
Divorce is forbidden in Catholicism which means...
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
November 25, 2022 at 1:57 am
I love presuppositional apologists try this little gem as an argument
Quote:Is it possible that god can give a revalation in a way that you could be certain of it.
There are three issues with this
1. According to Christianity the mind of humans are corrupted and imperfect by sin so how could you trust a sinful mind that's imperfect to be able to accurately understand the information of a sinless and perfect mind?
2. According to Christianity there are evil beings who are indistinguishable from the god of the bible. So would one tell which revelation is from god and which are not as the certainty could be a deception?
3. Technically anything is possible. But possible does not equal has happened.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
November 25, 2022 at 4:48 am
This is way dumber than you may expect it to be
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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